{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 178/1917-11-18/p024","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"This growing materialization of human souls, this imprisonment of human souls within the earthly sphere—lodges are also in the earthly sphere—will be counteracted. If the souls therefore haunt the lodges and are to be effective there, they must be confined to the earthly. This striving, this impulse to work in the earthly sphere through the souls, is counteracted by the significant impulse of the Mystery of Golgotha. This impulse of the Mystery of Golgotha is also the healing of the world against the materialization of the soul. The way taken by Christ Himself is completely outside the will and intentions of human beings. No human being, therefore, no matter how knowledgeable—also no initiate—has influence over what Christ does, which will lead, in the course of the twentieth century, to the appearance about which I have spoken and of which you will find indications in the Mystery Dramas. This depends completely upon Christ Himself. Christ will exist in the earthly sphere as an etheric being. It depends upon the human being how he establishes a relationship to Him. On the appearance of Christ Himself, therefore, no one, no initiate however mighty, has any influence. It will come. I beg that you hold firmly to this. Arrangements can be made, however, for receiving this Christ event in this way or that, for making it effective.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"10. Individual Spirit Beings and the Undivided Foundation of the World: Part 1","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-11-18","location":null,"word_count":223,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/178/1917-11-18/p024","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Gilbert Church and Alice Wulsin","identified_edition":null,"book_title":"The Reappearance of Christ in the Etheric","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/ReapChrist/19171118p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/178/1917-11-18/p024"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/178/1917-11-18/p024","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Wenn also die Seelen mit in den Logen spuken und dort wirken sollen, dann müssen sie ins Irdische gebannt sein. Gegen dieses Bestreben, diesen Impuls, im Irdischen zu wirken durch die Seelen, dem wird entgegengearbeitet durch den bedeutsamen Impuls des Mysteriums von Golgatha. Und dieser Impuls des Mysteriums von Golgatha ist auch die Weltheilung gegen die Vermaterialisierung der Seele. Es liegt vollständig außer dem Willen und außer den Intentionen der Menschen selbst, wie der Weg des Christus selber ist. Also kein Mensch irgendwelchen Wissens, auch kein Eingeweihter hat Einfluß darauf, daß der Christus dasjenige tut, was im Laufe des 20. Jahrhunderts zu der Erscheinung führt, von der ich Ihnen oft gesprochen habe, die Sie in den Mysteriendramen auch angedeutet finden. Das hängt bloß von dem Christus selbst ab. Der Christus wird als ätherische Wesenheit in der Erdensphäre vorhanden sein. Für die Menschen handelt es sich darum, wie sie sich zu ihm verhalten. Also auf die Erscheinung des Christus selbst hat niemand, kein noch so mächtiger Eingeweihter irgendeinen Einfluß. Das kommt. Das bitte ich Sie festzuhalten. 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