{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 179/1917-12-15/p010","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now, when someone speaks from the standpoint of the usual waking consciousness, he may ask:—How old is a person—How old is a certain person A? Someone may give his age, let us say 35, and he may believe that he has made an important statement. In stating that a certain person is 35 years old he has, in fact, said something of importance for the physical plane and for the usual waking consciousness; but for the spiritual world, in other words, for the etheric being of man, this implies only a *part* of the reality. When you say: I am 35 years old—you only say this in regard to your physical body. You must say: My physical body is 35 years old—then this will be correct. But these words express nothing at all as far as the etheric body, or the body of formative forces is concerned, and nothing at all as far as the other members of the human being are concerned. For it is an illusion, it is indeed quite fantastic to think that your ego, for instance, is 35 years old, when your physical body is 35 years old. You see, here we must bear in mind different speeds, different rapidities in the development of the various members.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"5. The Members of Man's Being and the Periods of His Life","site_heading":null,"date":"1917-12-15","location":null,"word_count":211,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/179/1917-12-15/p010","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"ANS1934","book_title":"Historical Necessity and Freewill","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA179/English/ANS1934/19171215p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Denn Sie können eigentlich, wenn Sie sagen, ich bin fünfunddreißig Jahre alt, dies nur für Ihren physischen Leib sagen. Sie müßten sagen: Mein physischer Leib ist fünfunddreißig Jahre alt - dann würde die Sache stimmen. Für den ätherischen oder Bildekräfteleib, für die andern Glieder der menschlichen Wesenheit haben Sie aber damit noch gar nichts gesagt. Denn daß Ihr Ich zum Beispiel auch fünfunddreißig Jahre alt sein soll, wenn Ihr physischer Leib fünfunddreißig Jahre alt ist, das ist eine bloße Illusion, das ist sogar eine reine Phantasterei. Denn sehen Sie, hier tritt auf der Begriff verschieden geschwinder, verschieden schneller Entwickelung der verschiedenen Glieder der menschlichen Natur.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":224,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/179/1917-12-15/p009"}],"english":["GA 179/1917-12-15/p009","GA 179/1917-12-15/p010"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":224,"en_words":242,"ratio":1.08,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":4892,"original_word_count":4728,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"ANS1934","book_title":"Historical Necessity and Freewill","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA179/English/ANS1934/19171215p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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