{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 179/1917-12-17/p022","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"This brought about what I was able to describe to you as the joint work of the so-called dead and of the so-called living in the whole development of humanity. For the reality of our life of feeling and of will is in the realm where the dead also are. We can say that the reality of our Ego and of our astral body is in the same realm where the dead can also be found. The same thing is meant in both cases. This, however, indicates a common realm in which we are embedded, in which the dead and the living work together upon the tapestry which we may call the social, moral, and historical life of man in its totality; the periods of existence which are lived through between death and a new birth also belong to this realm. We have indicated in these lectures how between death and a new birth the so-called departed one has the animal kingdom as his lowest kingdom, just as the mineral kingdom is our lowest kingdom. We have also pointed out in a certain way, how the departed one has to work within the being of the animal kingdom, and has to build up out of the laws of the animalic the organization that again forms the basis for his next incarnation. We have shown how as second kingdom the departed one experiences all those connections which have their karmic foundation here in the physical world and which, correspondingly transformed, continue within the spiritual world. A second kingdom thus arises for the departed one, which is woven together of all the karmic connections that he has established at any time in an earthly incarnation. Through this, however, everything that the human being has developed between death and a new birth gradually spreads itself out, one might say, quite concretely over the whole of humanity.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"7. The Inadequacy of Natural Science for the Knowledge of the Life of the Soul. 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Dadurch aber ist hingewiesen auf ein gemeinsames Gebiet, in das wir eingebettet sind, in dem die Toten und die Lebendigen zusammenarbeiten an demjenigen Gewebe, das man das soziale, das sittliche, das geschichtliche Menschenleben in seiner Ganzheit nennen kann, wozu auch diejenigen Lebensläufe gehören, die zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt zugebracht werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":115,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/179/1917-12-17/p019"},{"locus":"GA 179/1917-12-17/p020","passage_number":20,"text":"Wir haben darauf hingewiesen in diesen Betrachtungen, wie der sogenannte Tote zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt als unterstes Reich das tierische Reich hat, so wie wir das mineralische Reich als unterstes Reich haben. Wir haben auch in einer gewissen Weise darauf hingewiesen, wie der Tote zu arbeiten hat innerhalb des Wesens des tierischen Reiches, wie er aufzubauen hat aus den Gesetzen der Tierheit dasjenige, was wiederum der nächsten Inkarnation als Organisation zugrunde liegt. Wir haben darauf hingewiesen, wie als zweites Reich der Tote alle diejenigen Zusammenhänge erlebt, die hier in der physischen Welt karmisch begründet worden sind, und die sich in die geistige Welt hinein entsprechend verwandelt fortsetzen. Ein zweites Reich baut sich auf also für den Toten, das zusammengewoben ist aus all den karmischen Zusammenhängen, die er jemals in einer Inkarnation auf der Erde begründet hat. 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