{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 180/1917-12-29/p006","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Less hidden, we may truly say, is the other kind of Mystery,—that which belongs to the secret of death. While the former is associated with Fire, this kind of Mystery is associated with the Light. Here too, however, as in the case of Fire, something quite different is meant by ‘the Light.’ ‘The Light’ refers to that which speaks to man at night-time when the star-lit sky sends him its language of Light. All astrological Mysteries in ancient time were in reality Mysteries of Light,—in the times, I mean, before the arrival of the Mystery of Golgotha. Only, here again we must remember that the ancient Astrology was not pursued with the abstract calculations of to-day, but with an atavistic clairvoyant power. Man did not merely observe the mineral-physical world of stars above him; in those most ancient times, he had an organ with which to behold the secret of the constellations. It was, especially, a customary art in certain Mysteries of olden time, to observe the Moon establishing its various positions through the constellations of the Zodiac. They knew that when the Moon was shining from the region of the Pleiades, or from Taurus, it signified something quite different than if it were shining from some other region of the sky. Likewise the other planets in their several constellations were brought home to the consciousness of men. It was, however, a very different consciousness from what has remained to us in this materialistic epoch. They knew, moreover, that the Mystery of human death is connected with what is thus spoken to man by the starry constellations. Throughout the ever-changing association of the fixed stars with the several planets, they saw the expression, as it were, of a language which he who sojourns in the body hears from the Earth, while at the same time the souls of the dead perceive it from the other side. They were clearly conscious of the fact that when a man gives himself up with devotion to the language of the stars, he lives in that element which receives the human being when he passes through the Gate of Death.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"meaning_warning":"A sentence of this translation says something the German does not; translation_faults names it, with the German. quote_safe certifies the words, not the meaning: do not quote that sentence as Steiner's meaning. Quote the German or another translation, or quote it only to show the fault.","title":"III. 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Nur müssen wir uns wiederum klarmachen, daß diese alte Astrologie nicht mit der abstrakten Mathematik betrieben worden ist, wie das heute geschieht, sondern mit atavistischer Hellseherkraft, daß der Mensch nicht bloß die mineralisch-physikalische Sternenwelt über sich beobachtete, sondern daß er in diesen ältesten Zeiten ein Organ hatte, die Geheimnisse der Sternenkonstellationen zu erschauen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":140,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/180/1917-12-29/p006"},{"locus":"GA 180/1917-12-29/p007","passage_number":7,"text":"Insbesondere war es in diesen alten Zeiten eine gebräuchliche Kunst gewisser Mysterien, den Mond zu beobachten, wie er durch die verschiedenen Sternbilder des Tierkreises hindurch sich seine Stellungen schafft. Man wußte, wenn der Mond aus der Gegend her scheint, in der die Plejaden stehen, wenn der Mond aus der Stiergegend her scheint, so bedeutet das etwas anderes, als wenn der Mond aus einer andern Himmelsgegend her scheint. Und so brachte man auch die andern Planeten in ihren Konstellationen in das Bewußtsein des Menschen herein, aber in ein anderes Bewußtsein als dasjenige, das für das materialistische Zeitalter noch geblieben ist, und man war sich klar darüber, daß mit dem, was sich da ausspricht durch die Sternenkonstellationen, zusammenhängt das Mysterium des menschlichen Todes.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":121,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/180/1917-12-29/p007"},{"locus":"GA 180/1917-12-29/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"In dem ganzen wechselnden Zusammensein der Fixsterne mit den Planeten sah man gewissermaßen den Ausdruck einer Sprache, welche sich der im Leibe Lebende von der Erde aus anhört, und welche der Tote von der andern Seite her vernimmt. Und so hatte man ein deutliches Bewußtsein davon: Wenn man sich der Sternensprache hingibt, so lebt man in demjenigen Elemente, das den Menschen aufnimmt, wenn er durch die Pforte des Todes tritt. Die Geburt hat man in alten Zeiten gewissermaßen angesehen wie eine Art von Frage, und die alte Mystik, das Erleben des unsichtbaren, des übersinnlichen Menschen, sollte die Antwort auf diese Frage sein. Was die Sterne sprechen durch ihre Konstellationen, das hat man nicht als eine Tatsache angesehen, nicht als irgend etwas, das man so zusammenfaßt, wie man es heute zusammenfaßt, sondern die Sternenkonstellationen hat man eigentlich in älteren Zeiten, in den Zeiten der alten Mysterien, der Sternenmysterien, der Lichtmysterien, als Frage angesehen und den menschlichen Tod als die Antwort auf diese Frage. So, wie die Geburt zusammengebracht wurde mit dem übersinnlichen Menschen, so wurde der Tod zusammengebracht mit den Sternenkonstellationen. Daher kann man auch die Mysterien des Feuers die Mysterien der Geburt, die Weihnachtsmysterien nennen; man kann die Mysterien des Lichtes oder die Sternenmysterien auch nennen die Ostermysterien, die Mysterien des Todes. Man kann sagen: Die Mysterien, die dann in das Weihnachtsgeheimnis übergegangen sind, liegen hauptsächlich zugrunde alldem, was die Menschheit in den Zeiten vor dem Mysterium von Golgatha in Indien, in Ägypten als Mysteriengeheimnisse gehabt hat. 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