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Goethe has grown beyond his own beginning, and now something enters his soul which is tremendously significant and important, and which, when we recognize it, allows us to look deeply into his soul. Goethe had the tradition of the Faust-legend, the tradition of the North-German myth. Mephistopheles was one of the characters in that. But when, compelled by Schiller, he further develops his Faust, then Mephistopheles—Goethe himself is not properly conscious of this—becomes a figure which worries him inwardly, with which he does not really come to rights. Jacob Minor, also an interpreter of Faust, who said many intelligent things, had a remarkable explanation for the fact that Goethe could not get on at all when he took up Faust again. He thinks that Goethe at about 50 years of age had grown “old”! I should like to know how anyone could write “Faust” at all if poetic power is exhausted at 50 and yet one has to bring into poetry the forces belonging to the years after 50—unless the powers of youth could flourish in a life such as Goethe understood how to lead. But his soul was worried about Mephistopheles, instinctively worried, and it did not allow him to go any further, because the conflict of Faust and Mephistopheles did not go well. Goethe had introduced Faust to the biggest questions of humanity and that did not now fit in with Mephistopheles, who has taken on a Luciferic character. In that character, one only has to contend with the forces which proceed from the sentient life, the life of feeling. As soon as Goethe develops the Prologue in Heaven, Faust is confronted with the macrocosm. It would be no longer possible to allow Faust to fight only with the powers living in the inner soul of man; it is no longer possible to give Mephistopheles only a Luciferic character: Goethe perceived this; and really not in order to be pedantic, but only to point out some important things, I should like to draw your attention to some little details.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":393,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/181/1918-05-21/p024","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1918-05-21","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p025","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p025"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p026","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p026"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":385,"en_words":393,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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He was brought to a standstill. As, however, he had later to unite macrocosmic happenings with human happenings in the classical Walpurgis-night, and at the end where macrocosmic happenings and humanity's experience became woven into one, he had to make his Mephistopheles take on an Ahimanic character. To a great extent he succeeded in this. But really everything that Goethe himself said concerning his own personal relationship to his Faust is said under the impression that he would not be able to go on with it. If the Faust of the pedantic but nevertheless popular national drama of the Middle Ages is to be placed on the great cosmic stage, then it is necessary to divide Mephistopheles into a Luciferic and Ahrimanic being. For that reason Goethe could go no further. He then succeeded, as he was nearing the second part of the poem, by giving his Mephistopheles Ahrimanic features. A Luciferic being loves “fresh and rounded cheeks;” an Ahrimanic one has to do with the corpse, because it permeates our consciousness between birth and death with what we experience in our perceptive life. When we contemplate a personality like that of Goethe we recognize how it preserves the forces of youth, and with these he has constantly new and fresh life-experiences. Not because he has grown old did that appear which can be seen in such a remarkable manner in Goethe's life-history at the end of the nineties of the 18th century, but because he had passed through a crisis which brought certain forces of his youth to life again, made them arise anew, and made him experience them as a Whitsuntide miracle.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":353,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/181/1918-05-21/p028","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1918-05-21","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p030","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p030"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":396,"en_words":434,"ratio":1.1,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Goethe ist über seinen eigenen Anfang hinausgewachsen. Und jetzt tritt etwas in seine Seele, was ungeheuer bedeutungsvoll und wichtig ist, und was uns, wenn man es erkennt, tief hineinschauen läßt in die Goethe-Seele.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":85,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p025"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p026","passage_number":26,"text":"Goethe hatte die Tradition der Faust-Sage, die Tradition der nordischen, deutschen Mythe. Da war der Mephistopheles da. Aber in dem Augenblick, da er, gedrängt durch Schiller, den «Faust» weiterführt, da wird Mephistopheles - Goethe bringt es sich nicht recht zum Bewußtsein — eine Figur, die ihn innerlich wurmt, mit der er nicht recht zu Rande kommt. - Jakob Minor, der auch ein «Faust»-Erklärer ist und manches Geistreiche gesagt hat, hatte eine merkwürdige Erklärung dafür gefunden, daß Goethe gar nicht vorwärtskam, als er den «Faust» wieder aufnahm. Er meint nämlich, daß Goethe, als er gegen die Fünfzigerjahre stand, alt geworden wäre. Ich möchte nur wissen, wie es sein sollte, daß man überhaupt einen «Faust» schreiben könnte, wenn die Dichterkraft mit den Fünfzigern versiegen würde und man doch die Kräfte der Jahre nach fünfzig auch in die Dichtung hineinbringen müßte, wenn nicht dem Menschen Jugendkraft erblühen könnte aus einem Leben, wie es Goethe zu führen verstand. Aber Mephistopheles wurmte in seiner Seele, instinktiv wurmte er ihn. Und der ließ ihn nicht weiterkommen, weil der Konflikt Faust-Mephistopheles nicht recht ging. Goethe hatte einmal den Faust an die größten Menschheitsfragen herangeführt, und das ging jetzt nicht mit dem Mephistopheles. Dieser hatte einen luziferischen Charakter angenommen. Da hat man es nur mit den Kräften zu tun, die aus dem Gefühls- und Empfindungsleben herauskommen. In dem Augenblick aber, wo Goethe den «Prolog im Himmel» entwickelt, da steht Faust dem Makrokosmos gegenüber. Da geht es nicht mehr, daß man Faust bloß mit denjenigen Mächten kämpfen läßt, die im Inneren des Menschen leben; da geht es nicht mehr, dem Mephistopheles bloß den luziferischen Charakter zu lassen. Das spürte Goethe. Und wirklich nicht, um pedantisch zu werden, sondern um auf Wichtiges hinzuweisen, möchte ich auf einige Kleinigkeiten aufmerksam machen. Denken Sie, daß der Herr im «Prolog im Himmel» sagt:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":300,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p026"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p027","passage_number":27,"text":"> Von allen Geistern, die verneinen,  \n> Ist mir der Schalk am wenigsten zur Last.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":15,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p027"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Dann muß es noch andere Geister geben, die verneinen. Aber im «Faust» ist nur der eine: Mephistopheles. Und denken Sie, daß Mephistopheles im «Prolog» sagt:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":25,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p028"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p029","passage_number":29,"text":"> Am meisten lieb’ ich mir die vollen frischen Wangen,  \n> Für einen Leichnam bin ich nicht zu Haus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":19,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p029"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-05-21/p030","passage_number":30,"text":"Und erinnern Sie sich an den Schluß, wo er sich um den Leichnam wahrhaftig ernst genug bemüht. Was liegt da vor? Das, daß Goethe spürte: was er von der Mythe, von der Faust-Sage empfangen hatte als die einheitliche Mephistophelesfigur, das spaltet sich, wenn man hinausgeht in den Makrokosmos, in zwei. In Goethe lebte es, zwiespältig zu empfinden: luziferisch und ahrimanisch. Er ist dann darin nicht weitergekommen, weil es Geisteswissenschaft zu seiner Zeit noch nicht gab. Aber das brachte ihn zum Stocken. Als er jedoch später makrokosmisches Geschehen und Menschheitsgeschehen zu verbinden hatte in. der «Klassischen Walpurgisnacht», und am Schlusse, wo sich makrokosmisches Allgeschehen und Menschheitserleben in eins verweben, da mußte sein Mephistopheles einen ahrimanischen Charakter annehmen. Das ist ihm bis zu einem hohen Grade gelungen. Aber alles eigentlich, was Goethe selbst über sein persönliches Verhältnis zu seinem «Faust» gesagt hat, steht unter dem Eindruck: Es geht nicht weiter. Wenn man von dem mittelalterlichen, pedantischen, aber trotzdem volkstümlichen Drama den Faust auf die große Weltenbühne hinausstellt, so hat man nötig, den Mephistopheles zu spalten in ein luziferisches und ein ahrimanisches Wesen. Deshalb wollte es bei Goethe nicht weitergehen. Es ist ihm dann gelungen — selbstverständlich will ich Goethe nicht korrigieren -, indem er sich immer mehr dem zweiten Teile der Dichtung näherte, seinem Mephistopheles ahrimanische Züge zu geben. Ein luziferisches Wesen liebt die «vollen frischen Wangen»; ein ahrimanisches hat es mit dem «Leichnam» zu tun, weil es mit dem, was wir in unserem Wahrnehmungsvermögen erleben, auch unser Bewußtsein zwischen Geburt und Tod durchdringt. Gerade wenn man eine Persönlichkeit ansieht wie die Goethesche, so erkennt man, wie eine solche Persönlichkeit die Jugendkräfte beibehält, aber mit diesen Jugendkräften immer neue und neue Lebenserfahrungen macht. Nicht weil er alt geworden war, ist das eingetreten, was in einer so merkwürdigen Weise für das Ende der Neunzigerjahre des 18. Jahrhunderts aus Goethes Lebensgeschichte hervorgeht, sondern weil er eine Krisis durchmachte, die gewisse Kräfte seiner Jugend zu neuer Auferstehung brachte, sie auferstehen ließ, sie ihn recht als Pfingstwunder erleben ließ. Was ich jetzt über «Faust» gesagt habe, ist weiter ausgeführt in der Schrift, die jetzt wieder erscheinen soll: «Goethes «Faust» als Bild seiner esoterischen Weltanschauung». Diese soll den ersten Teil eines demnächst erscheinenden Büchelchens bilden: «Goethes Geistesart»; der zweite sollen Goethes Gedanken über seinen «Faust» sein, und der dritte Teil einige Gedankenausführungen über das «Märchen von der grünen Schlange und der schönen Lilie».","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":396,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-05-21/p030"}],"beads":[{"from":[24],"to":[25,26],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[25],"to":[27],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[26],"to":[28],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[27],"to":[29],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[28,29],"to":[30],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}