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Des Menschen ganzes Wesen bedient sich ja gewiß des Hauptes, um das uns bekannte Bewußtsein zu haben. Aber wir haben außerdem anführen können, daß der Mensch durch dieses menschliche Haupt ein traumhaftes Bewußtsein hat, das nur von dem gewöhnlichen Bewußtsein übertönt wird, und daß er durch dieses traumhafte Bewußtsein in seine früheren Erdenleben zurückblickt. Ebenso haben wir anführen können, daß der Extremitätenmensch, aber in Verbindung mit dem ganzen Menschen, fortwährend ein traumhaftes Bewußtsein entwickelt von dem nächsten Erdenleben. Was wir also innerhalb unserer Geisteswissenschaft als eine Theorie über die wiederholten Erdenleben anführen, das ist schon eine Realität in der Menschenseele. Es ist eine Bewußtseinsrealität, aber eine dumpfe, dämmerhafte Bewußtseinsrealität. Außerdem haben wir noch angeführt, daß der Mensch auch durch seinen Ausatmungsprozeß, welcher der Rumpforganisation angehört, ein solches traumhaftes Bewußtsein entwickelt für das Leben vom letzten Tode bis zur Geburt; und durch den Einatmungsprozeß, der ebenfalls der Rumpforganisation angehört, hat der Mensch ein dumpfes Bewußtsein von dem Leben vom nächsten Tode bis zur neuen Geburt. Kurz, im Menschen weben die verschiedenen Bewußtseine durcheinander. Dies alles wird Sie darauf aufmerksam machen, daß wir es in dem ganzen Menschen. mit einer feingewobenen Organisation zu tun haben, und daß das, was man sich gewöhnlich vom Menschen sagt, was die Leute sich vom Menschen zur Klarheit bringen, eigentlich von der Gesamtwesenheit des Menschen nur ein ganz geringer Teil, nur das Allergröbste dieser Gesamtwesenheit ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":302,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-07-09/p004"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-07-09/p006","passage_number":6,"text":"Ein wichtiger Zeitraum -— ich habe darauf schon vor einiger Zeit hingedeutet - in der Entwickelung der Gesamtmenschheit, namentlich unserer Kulturmenschheit des Abendlandes, ist der des 7. bis 8. Jahrhunderts vor dem Mysterium von Golgatha. Da ging mit den Menschenseelen, namentlich der abendländischen Kulturmenschheit, ein bedeutsamer Umschwung vor sich. Wir wissen, daß sich damals der dritte nachatlantische Kulturzeitraum in den vierten hineinverwandelte. Die Menschenseelen hatten früher, vor dem 7., 8. Jahrhundert, vorzugsweise den Charakter der Empfindungsseele. Sie bekamen damals den Charakter der Verstandesseele. Dann wieder war ein wichtiger Zeitumschwung im 15. christlichen Jahrhundert, also noch gar nicht so weit hinter uns; da bekam die menschliche Seele den Charakter der Bewußtseinsseele. Nun ändert der Charakter des Seelenhaften, den man bekommt, auch den Charakter des traumhaften Rückblickes in eine frühere Inkarnation. Fassen Sie nur einen Menschen zum Beispiel im Beginne des griechisch-lateinischen Kulturzeitraumes ins Auge, also im 3., 4. vorchristlichen Jahrhundert. Er lebte, wenn er eine normale Entwickelungsstufe erlangt hatte im Abendlande oder in einem angrenzenden Gebiete, mit dem Charakter der Verstandes- oder Gemütsseele. Aber das, was in ihm von früheren Erdenleben träumte, richtete sich ja auf diese früheren Erdenleben zurück, wo die Seele den Charakter der Empfindungsseele hatte. Allerdings verschwand im Laufe des vierten nachatlantischen Kulturzeitraumes allmählich die Fähigkeit, die wiederholten Erdenleben unmittelbar wahrzunehmen. Aber zahlreiche Menschen hatten sie; und die, die sie hatten, blickten so zurück, daß sie -— wenn ich mich so ausdrücken datf - sich erblickten als Besitzer der Empfindungsseele. Verhältnismäßig groß war der Unterschied zwischen dem, wie die Menschen sich jetzt, also im damaligen Jetzt, vorkamen, und dem, was ihnen vor die Seele trat, wenn der Traum ihnen gegenständlich wurde: So warst du im früheren Erdenleben. - Dadurch unterschieden sich viele. Menschen in ihrer damaligen gegenwärtigen Inkarnation sehr stark von dem, was sie als ihre frühere Inkarnation erblickten. Weil sie sich in der damaligen gegenwärtigen Inkarnation. fühlten als Verstandes- oder Gemütsseele, hatten sie das Gefühl: Du warst Empfindungsseele in der früheren Inkarnation. — Was heißt das, das Gefühl haben, man ist Empfindungsseele in der früheren Inkarnation? Das haben die gegenwärtigen Menschen fast gar nicht mehr, können es nicht mehr haben, das rechte Gefühl: man ist Empfindungsseele, an das sich die Menschen in den ersten Jahrhunderten der vierten nachatlantischen Zeit noch recht lebhaft erinnerten. Die ägyptischen, chaldäischen Menschen in der dritten nachatlantischen Kulturperiode fühlten sich als Empfindungsseele. Sich als Empfindungsseele fühlen, bedeutet: Man weiß fast gar nichts davon, daß man ein denkender Mensch ist; man gibt gar nichts darauf, Gedanken zu haben, sondern man ist in dem fortwährenden lebendigen Gefühl, mit der Außenwelt, aber mit der geistdurchtränkten Außenwelt in einem Zusammenhang zu stehen. — Es ist außerordentlich schwierig, dieses Bewußtsein zu schildern, man sei eine Empfindungsseele, weil dieses Bewußtsein sinnenhaft ein so lebendiges ist, daß man eigentlich fortwährend fühlt: Man ist an den Stellen des Raumes, wo man durchgegangen ist, wie ein Schatten zurückgeblieben. Wenn man zum Beispiel auf einem Stuhl gesessen hat, im heutigen Sinne gesprochen, und man ist eine Weile gegangen, hat man das Gefühl: Da sitzest du noch lange. — Das Gefühl der Verbindung mit den äußeren Dingen war ganz lebendig. Vor allem hatte man eine vollständig klare, konkrete Anschauung von seinem Raumesbild fortwährend vor sich; auch ein Gefühl von seinem Raumesbild hatte man fortwährend vor sich. Weil dieses Raumesgefühl ein so starkes war, deshalb war auch die Lehre von der Wiederverkörperung, welche damals in bewußter Weise vorgetragen wurde, eine so intensive; denn die Menschen hatten, indem sie zurückschauten, indem ihnen dieses Träumen von den früheren Erdenleben bewußt wurde, ein lebendiges Bild von ihrem Raumesmenschen. Sie sahen sich förmlich, wie sie da waren in verschiedenen Situationen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":601,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-07-09/p006"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-07-09/p007","passage_number":7,"text":"Dieses lebendige Schauen seiner selbst ist im Laufe der vierten nachatlantischen. Kulturperiode verlorengegangen. Dadurch ist der Mensch auch nicht mehr fähig gewesen, eine starke Kraft aufzubringen, um nun überhaupt das zu erfassen, was als traumhafte Erinnerung an früheres Erdenleben in ihm vorhanden ist, namentlich deshalb, weil später die Menschen, die wiedergeboren wurden, in diesem Traum, durch den sie sich an frühere Erdenleben erinnerten, sich ja nicht an eine so lebendig anschauende Empfindungsseele erinnerten, sondern an eine Verstandes- oder Gemütsseele, die ohnedies nicht sehr gegenständlich ist, die etwas Verschwommenes, etwas Innerliches ist. Das kann der Mensch nicht so erfassen. Daher hörte das Bewußtsein von früheren Erdenleben allmählich ganz und gar auf. Aber im Laufe des fünften nachatlantischen Kulturzeitraumes wird dieses Bewußtsein der wiederholten Erdenleben in einer ganz bestimmten Weise wieder auftreten. Und niemand versteht eigentlich die Entwickelung der Menschheit, der solche Wahrheiten nicht durchschaut, wie wir sie jetzt vor unsere Seele treten lassen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":152,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-07-09/p007"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-07-09/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Was in der Menschheit auftritt, das tritt auf den verschiedensten Gebieten unserer Erde in verschiedener Weise auf. Ich habe öfter darauf hingedeutet, daß in der Zukunft wieder ein Zeitpunkt zu erwarten ist, und ganz besonders bedeutsam wird er sich im 3. Jahrtausend zeigen, wo niemand wird ohne einen gewissen Rückblick an frühere Erdenleben sein können, und namentlich nicht ohne ein deutliches Bewußtsein, daß er künftige Erdenleben haben kann. Aber gerade dieses Bewußtsein wird in verschiedener Weise auf verschiedenen Gebieten der Erde auftreten, und das zu verstehen, ist außerordentlich wichtig.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":89,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-07-09/p008"},{"locus":"GA 181/1918-07-09/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Wir wollen einmal die großen Gebiete, auf denen das verschieden auftreten wird, ins Auge fassen: Die Gebiete des Ostens, im Osten von Europa schon deutlich beginnend und dann nach Asien sich forterstreckend, also das Gebiet des Orients; und dann wollen wir das Gebiet des europäischen Westens und das Amerikas besonders dabei ins Auge fassen. Auf beiden Gebieten bereitet sich in verschiedener Weise diese künftige Fähigkeit vor, wiederholte Erdenleben ins Auge zu fassen, Im Westen weiß man in eingeweihten Kreisen dies schon ganz genau, und das Bedeutsame des Westens besteht gerade darin, daß man mit okkulten Fähigkeiten rechnet und diese auch im äußeren Leben zu betätigen gedenkt. Wer dies nicht in Betracht zieht, versteht die Entwickelung des Westens und den ganzen Einfluß des Westens auf die Geschichte der Menschheit sehr schlecht. Gerade die wichtigsten Dinge, die im Westen geschehen, die namentlich von der angloamerikanischen Menschenrasse ausgehen, geschehen unter dem Einfuß von geheimeren, intimeren Kenntnissen des Menschheitsgeschehens als solchen. Wenn man schildert, um was es sich bei diesen Dingen handelt, kommt man natürlich bald eigentlich in die Gefahr, paradox sprechen zu müssen, weil man Dinge schildern muß, von denen sich der gescheite Mensch - er ist ja immer gescheit und klug! sagt: Ja, warum wissen das die Eingeweihten nicht? — Aber Sie bräuchten nur zu bedenken, daß ich Ihnen von Luzifer und Ahriman. allerlei erzählen muß, was die tun, fühlen, namentlich was sie getan haben, und da kommt dann der Mensch und meint, er wäre gescheiter gewesen als Luzifer und Ahriman und hätte nicht das gemacht wie das Zurückbleiben und so weiter. Dergleichen muß man nur richtig ins Auge fassen. Man kann gewisse Dinge tun, gerade weil man in einer gewissen Weise gescheiter ist als der Mensch.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":285,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/181/1918-07-09/p009"}],"beads":[{"from":[4],"to":[4],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[5,6,7],"to":[6],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[8,9],"to":[7,8],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[10,11],"to":[9],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}