{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 182/1918-10-16/p079","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But do not allow yourselves to be misled in these matters by what is put forward today as mysticism or actually preached as a tenet by certain denominations. When Harnack, for example, speaks of the Christ, what he says is not true, for the simple reason that it can equally well apply to God in the general sense. It can be said alike of the God of the Hebrews, of the God of the Mohammedans, of all the other Gods. You will hear many a one who claims to be awakened today, saying: I experience God within me ... but it is the Father God only that such people experience and that in a very weakened form, because they do not realise that they are sick and are speaking merely in accordance with tradition. Johannes Muller is an example of this. But none of these men have found Christ, for the Christ-experience does not consist of the unitary realisation of the Divine, but of the *twofold* experience of the death in the soul wrought by the body and the resurrection of the soul wrought by the spirit. A man who can say that he feels not only the Divine within him—as mystical theosophists eloquently assert—but can speak of the two experiences—of powerlessness and the resurrection from it—such a man is speaking of the true Christ-experience. And after all, he has found his way to the Mystery of Golgotha along a super-sensible path, he has found within himself the strength whereby certain super-sensible faculties are quickened to life and lead him to the Mystery of Golgotha.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"How Do I Find the Christ?","site_heading":null,"date":"1918-10-16","location":null,"word_count":265,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/182/1918-10-16/p079","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"A. P. Shepherd, D.D. and D. S. 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Und viele, die heute sogenannte «Erweckte» sein wollen, die sagen: Ich erlebe den Gott in mir -, aber sie erleben eben nur den Vatergott, und den auch nur in einer abgeschwächten Gestalt, weil sie eigentlich nicht bemerken, daß sie krank sind und nur traditionell nachreden. So etwas macht zum Beispiel Johannes Müller. Aber alle diese haben keinen Christus, denn das Christus-Erlebnis besteht nicht aus einem Erleben des Gottes in der Menschenseele, sondern aus den zweien: aus dem Erleben des Todes in der Seele durch den Leib, und der Wiederauferstehung der Seele durch den Geist. Und derjenige, der der Menschheit sagt, daß er nicht bloß den Gott in sich fühlt - wie es auch die bloß rhetorischen Theosophen behaupten -, sondern der reden kann von den zwei Ereignissen, von der Ohnmacht und von der Auferstehung aus der Ohnmacht, der redet von dem wirklichen Christus-Erlebnis. Der aber findet sich auf einem übersinnlichen Wege hin zu dem Mysterium von Golgatha; er findet selbst die Kräfte, die gewisse übersinnliche Kräfte anregen und die ihn hinführen zu dem Mysterium von Golgatha.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":257,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/182/1918-10-16/p053"}],"english":["GA 182/1918-10-16/p079"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":257,"en_words":265,"ratio":1.03,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.13,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":10541,"original_word_count":9326,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"A. P. Shepherd, D.D. and D. S. 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