{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 183/1918-08-25/p028","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now you will agree that men believe that, shall we say, for two hundred years they have been thinking a tremendous deal. We can gather up what they have been thinking for two hundred years, what they have developed as ideals, what they have talked of still talk of, as great ideals. We can do this from the time of the ideals of the age of enlightenment to that of the great would-be Caesar, Woodrow Wilson. All that is talked of about the various ideals, men have been thinking during these centuries, these last two centuries; this has formed men's thoughts. World history, however, is very little affected by these thoughts, world history has been affected by something quite different, by the thoughts that have been working and weaving in things. And in reality never were the thoughts filling men's heads farther removed from the great cosmic thoughts living in things than at the present time. What for the last hundred and fifty years, shall we say, has prompted man to work for a definite fashioning of the world is not thoughts of freedom, equality, brotherhood, justice, and so on and so forth, it is the thoughts interwoven with the coming of the machine loom. That the machine loom arose in modern development in the second half of the eighteenth century; that this significant invention took the place in mankind's evolution of the old hand-weaving; that from the machine loom came the whole machine civilisation of modern times; in all this there weave the objective thoughts the real thoughts, that have given the world its present form, out of which has arisen the present chaotic catastrophe. Should we wish to write a history of this catastrophe, we have not to turn to the thoughts teeming in human consciousness; we must turn to the objective thoughts of the founding, the invention, of the machine loom up to the development of big industry with its shadow, socialism. for even if these two things, big industry and socialism, appear as opposites they are polaric opposites belonging to one another, and as such inseparable.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture II","site_heading":"Threefold Man and Cosmic Consciousness Development","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Die Weltgeschichte ist von etwas ganz anderem bewegt worden: von jenen Gedanken, die in den Dingen gewirkt und gewebt haben. Und niemals waren eigentlich die Gedanken, die in den Menschenköpfen wimmeln, weiter entfernt von den großen kosmischen Gedanken, die in den Dingen leben, als in unserer Zeit. Dasjenige, was seit, man kann sagen, hundertfünfzig Jahren die Menschen dazu getrieben hat, eine gewisse Gestaltung der Welt zu bewirken, das sind nicht die Gedanken von Freiheit, Gleichheit, Brüderlichkeit, Gerechtigkeit und so weiter, sondern das sind die Gedanken, welche verwoben waren zum Beispiel mit dem Aufkommen des mechanischen Webstuhls. Daß der mechanische Webstuhl hereingekommen ist in die moderne Entwickelung in der zweiten Hälfte des 18. Jahrhunderts, daß sich diese bedeutsame Erfindung des mechanischen Webstuhls an die Stelle der alten Handweberei hineingefunden hat in die Menschheitsentwickelung, und daß von diesem mechanischen Webstuhl die ganze Maschinenkultur der neueren Zeit ausgegangen ist, darinnen weben die objektiven Gedanken, die wirklichen Gedanken, welche der Welt die Gestaltung gegeben haben, die sie bis heute hat, und aus der das gegenwärtige katastrophale Chaos entstanden ist. Man muß nicht, wenn man eine Geschichte schreiben will des gegenwärtigen katastrophalen Chaos, an die Gedanken, die in dem Menschenbewußtsein gewirnmelt haben, sich wenden, sondern an diese objektiven Gedanken von der Begründung, von der Erfindung des mechanischen Webstuhls bis zu dem Werden der Großindustrie und ihres Schattens, des Sozialismus. Denn wenn das auch scheinbare Gegensätze sind, Großindustrie und Sozialismus, so sind sie polarische Gegensätze, die zueinander gehören, sie sind nicht voneinander zu trennen. 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