{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 183/1918-08-25/p029","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We must put our questions to these objective thoughts and observe history in its becoming. Then we find that during the eighteenth century, all through the nineteenth, and especially so far as we have gone in this our twentieth century, men have given themselves up to many illusions. They are given over to illusion in their thoughts; but the objective, historic-cosmic thoughts have completely overwhelmed them. These are weaving in things. And an interest—though terribly one-sided—for these objectively weaving thoughts has really been gradually developed only by those who have built up socialism as a world-conception. That is something tremendously characteristic. If you follow the course of the nineteenth century you will see that the bourgeoisie increasingly loses interest in the great questions of world outlook. These great questions are indeed becoming most distasteful to the bourgeoisie; where possible they relegate them to aesthetics. A perfectly average bourgeois will listen in the theatre to all kinds of discussions about whether there are spiritual beings or not, when there is no need to believe in them, and when it is not a question of the truth of anything. Then the most varied matters can be put forward by Björnsen and people of that ilk. And what concerns the conception of the world is today for the bourgeoisie transferred into the realm of aesthetics, into all manner of dabbling with so-called art. In recent years people have been breaking each others heads over questions concerning conceptions of the world in the sphere of socialism. (I don't look on this as an ideal in a physical sense but in a spiritual sense in a certain way it is so. You know how I have hinted emphatically that I like a little warmth even in the treatment of anthroposophical truths.) The other people have not troubled themselves about this head-breaking but have left those alone who have looked at the world from what is really a very narrow point of view, those who have only seen the world from the aspect of the factory, from the inside of factories, from the inside of printing works, and so on. And it is extremely interesting what kind of world outlook has been produced out of the point of view of the factory—for that is socialism, my dear friends. It is the factory aspect, the aspect of men who know nothing beyond the inside of their factories. And in all that has developed in this sphere, little interest has been really shown by the bourgeoisie with their abstract ideas; the bourgeoisie who even concern themselves with aesthetics in an abstract way to avoid the breaking of heads. Thus in a curious way the bourgeoisie have found themselves between the old completely moribund world-conception bereft of the spiritual that would prefer to relegate all great questions to the realm of aesthetics, and what has newly arisen as socialism. This socialism has so far no concepts at all; it is a system founded entirely on words. This is because as yet it has no view of the world whatever and can only see the factory, and even so only the most external part of the mechanism. Just imagine what it really means when a man has no inner knowledge of the kingdoms of the minerals, the plants, the animals, and only knows of the way in which a certain cock is moved mechanically up or down in a machine, this or that filed or planed, and things of that kind: Socialism is a world-outlook founded on the perception of a purely mechanical world. It is the bit of the world cut out by the socialist—the bit that is mechanical, and on this he builds his concepts.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture II","site_heading":"Threefold Man and Cosmic Consciousness Development","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Jahrhunderts, das 19. Jahrhundert hindurch, und namentlich in dem Teil des 20. Jahrhunderts, in dem wir jetzt leben. Sie haben sich vielen Illusionen hingegeben in ihren Gedanken; aber überwältigt sind sie worden von den objektiven, historisch-kosmischen Gedanken. Die weben in den Dingen. Und ein Interesse für diese objektiv webenden Gedanken, wenn auch ein furchtbar einseitiges Interesse, haben eigentlich doch nur diejenigen Menschen allmählich entwickelt, welche den Sozialismus als Weltanschauung ausgebildet haben. Und das ist etwas ungeheuer Charakteristisches. Wenn Sie das 19. Jahrhundert verfolgen: das Bourgeoistum verliert immer mehr und mehr das Interesse für große Weltanschauungsfragen. Große Weltanschauungsfragen werden sogar dem Bourgeoistum höchst unangenehm, sie werden womöglich in die Ästhetik hinein abgeschoben. Ob es geistige Wesen gibt oder nicht, darüber mag man, wenn man ein richtiger Durchschnittsbourgeois ist, von der Bühne herunter allerlei vernehmen, wo man nicht daran zu glauben braucht, wo es nicht darauf ankommt, ob die Dinge Wahrheiten sind oder nicht: da läßt man sich von Björnson und ähnlichen Leuten das Mannigfaltigste vormachen. So in das Ästhetische hinein, in das Spielen mit allerlei sogenannten Künstlerischem, dahin wird das Weltanschauungsgemäße für das Bourgeoistum in der neueren Zeit abgeschoben. Wirklich für Weltanschauungsfragen die Köpfe gegenseitig zerschlagen — womit ich das nicht als ein Ideal betrachten will im physischen Sinne, aber im geistigen Sinne ist es in gewissem Sinne ein Ideal: Sie wissen, ich habe mit einem sehr starken Aplomb darauf hingewiesen, daß ich gerne Temperament haben würde auch beim Vertteten anthroposophischer Wahrheiten -, die Köpfe eingeschlagen hat man sich in den letzten Jahrzehnten auf sozialistischem Gebiete. Und darum haben sich die andern nicht gekümmert. Sie haben, möchte ich sagen, diejenigen Leute allein gelassen, welche die Welt eigentlich von einem sehr engen Aspekt aus gesehen haben, welche die Welt nur gesehen haben von dem Aspekt der Fabrik aus, von dem Inneren der Fabrik aus, von dem Inneren der Buchdruckerwerkstätte und so weiter. Und es ist ja im höchsten Maße interessant, was für eine sogenannte Weltanschauung herausgekommen ist von dem Aspekte der Fabrik aus: denn das ist der Sozialismus! Das ist vom Aspekt des Inneren der Fabrik, das ist vom Aspekt der Menschen aus, die gar nichts anderes kennen als das Innere der Fabrik. Und für das, was da sich heranentwickelte, hat sich das Bourgeoistum, das sich mit allerlei abstrakten Ideen, aber auch im Abstrakten mit Ästhetisieren befaßt, so daß man nicht sehr sich die Köpfe zu zerschlagen brauchte, für das, was da unten sich entwickelt hat, hat sich das Bourgeoistum eigentlich wenig interessiert. Und so ist das Bourgeoistum kurioserweise in die Mitte hineingekommen zwischen der absterbenden, der ganz absterbenden alten Weltanschauung, die alles Geistige verloren hat, die alle großen Fragen überhaupt in den Ästhetizismus hinein abschieben möchte, und dem, was da neu heraufkommt, dem Sozialismus, der überhaupt noch keine Begriffe hat, der noch lediglich mit Worten allerlei Systeme bereitet, weil er die Welt überhaupt noch nicht sehen kann, sondern nur die Fabrik sehen kann, nur das alleräußerste Mechanische sehen kann. Denken Sie sich doch, was es eigentlich zu bedeuten hat, wenn der Mensch innerlich nichts weiß von Mineralreich, Pflanzenreich und Tierreich, sondern nur weiß von der Art und Weise, wie in der Maschine mechanisch sich dieser oder jener Zapfen auf und ab bewegt, das oder jenes zugefeilt und zugehobelt wird und dergleichen! Der Sozialismus ist eine Weltanschauung, die da fußt auf der Anschauung einer Welt, die rein mechanisch ist. 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