{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 184/1918-09-08/p024","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"You could, of course, say: Well, man only experiences a part here in the physical body; but he truly does not live in vain in the physical body: he experiences the world from the point of view of the physical body because he could not experience what he experiences from the physical body between death and a new birth. Whether what a person experiences in the pure spiritual realm between death and a new birth is valued more highly or less highly is not what we wish to discuss today. But it is different from what a person experiences here through his body, and it is very important to take this into account. And it is truly not in vain that man is placed in the world through his body; for he could not experience through his body in the world, always in episodes of the development of humanity as a whole, if he did not have the development of the body. It is a thoroughly false idea to have an ascetic attitude towards the development of the physical body on earth, regarding it merely as the enemy of the higher human being. In truth it is not that, but that which gives man something that he could not attain in any other way. And the man is very much mistaken who despises the life in the body, who regards the body as something low, for it means just a highest, an most important, a most meaningful in the whole life of man. And spiritual science can least of all follow that mysticism or that wrong direction of Christianity – not the right direction, but the wrong one – which despises what it calls the earthly world. 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Und der Mensch ist wahrhaftig nicht umsonst durch seinen Leib in die Welt hineingestellt; denn das, was er durch seinen Leib in der Welt erleben kann, immer in Episoden der Gesamtmenschheitsentwickelung, das könnte er eben nicht erleben, wenn er nicht die Leibesentwickelung hätte. Es ist eine durchaus unzutreffende Vorstellung, wenn man der irdischen Leibesentwickelung in asketischer Art gegenübersteht, wenn man sie etwa nur als den Feind des höheren Menschen betrachtet. Das ist sie in Wahrheit nicht, sondern dasjenige, was dem Menschen etwas gibt, das er auf keinem andern Weg erlangen könnte. Und der Mensch irrt gar sehr, der das Leben im Leibe verachtet, der den Leib als etwas Niedriges ansieht, denn es bedeutet eben ein Höchstes, ein Wichtigstes, ein Bedeutungsvollstes im Gesamtleben des Menschen. Und Geisteswissenschaft kann am allerwenigsten sich jenem Mystizismus oder jener verkehrten Richtung des Christentums — nicht der richtigen, aber verkehrten Richtung - anschließen, welche verachtet dasjenige, was sie die irdische Welt nennt. Der Mensch erlebt eben zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt die Welt von einer andern Perspektive aus; er erlebt sie so, wie er sie erleben kann: in ihn herein wirken jetzt nicht die Geschöpfe wie durch den physischen Leib und Ätherleib, sondern die Schöpfer selbst. 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