{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 184/1918-09-13/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We know that even if a person is not a theorist (we are disregarding theorists here), if he wants to understand the natural order, he instinctively comes to the rule of matter and forces. I am not talking now about the scientific theories of substances and forces, but rather about how the average person today, in his simple way, imagines nature, and how he instinctively bases his ideas about natural phenomena on material processes permeated by forces. Man is led - when one really properly examines things, we know that - to an illusion. Because actually everything that can be said in such contexts about what matter and forces are, everything is illusion. The basis of today's view of nature is illusion. This is not based on a defect in thinking alone, it is simply based on the present constitution of the soul. We no longer speak of maya or illusion, as in the Indian worldview, because we do not see the facts in ordinary life. We do not see these facts, so that when we present nature, we actually always live in illusion. That is one thing.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Fourth Lecture","site_heading":"Bridging Materialism and Spirituality Through Spiritual Science","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Da wird der Mensch geführt - wenn man die Dinge untersucht, wenn man wirklich sachgemäß die Dinge untersucht, wir wissen das ja - zu einer Illusion. Denn eigentlich ist all das, was ausgesagt werden kann in solchen Zusammenhängen über das, was Stoff und Kräfte sind, alles ist Illusion. Die Grundlage der heutigen Naturanschauung ist Illusion. Das beruht nicht auf einer Fehlerhaftigkeit des Denkens allein, das beruht einfach auf der heutigen Seelenkonstitution, auf der heutigen Seelenverfassung. Wir reden nicht mehr wie etwa die indische Weltanschauung von Maja oder Illusion, weil wir den Tatbestand im gewöhnlichen Leben nicht durchschauen. Wir durchschauen diesen Tatbestand nicht, so daß wir eigentlich, wenn wir die Natur vorstellen, immer in der Illusion leben. 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