{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 184/1918-10-11/p019","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The theory of evolution, *Goethe's* theory of evolution, is not wrong; it takes the right direction because it wishes to grasp man in his reality. The materialistic theory of evolution, with its Darwinian colouring, talks of man's descent from the animals. The truth, however, is this—there is something in us which originates in the animals, or at least has a common origin with the animals, yet this is not what we are as human beings; it is the ghost that natural science takes for man. Science turns man also into a ghost because it knows him only as a ghostly phenomenon, and then it asks: Whence comes this ghost? When we reach the point of recognising that it is not man but only his ghost that can be dealt with in the manner of modern science, then in this sphere we shall reach the truth. You will surely be ready to admit that you would never have come here had you sent only Homunculus, the ghost, which is the conception of yourselves forced upon you by natural science. And if only the Homunculi who represent you in your consciousness were here, I should not be able to speak to them! You carry real human beings here with you, but not in your consciousness. The age of the Consciousness Soul, however, has to raise into consciousness the real man. From Homunculus he must rise to *man*. If this were not to come about, man would get to the point of experiencing the polaric opposite of his ghostly being. The men of old did conceive of themselves as ghosts, it is true, but they could also receive the reality because atavistic forces were still active in them, whereas into the men of to-day there can enter only what comes through the Consciousness Soul; and when in the Consciousness Soul man has only the ghost of himself, moral spiritual impulses cannot get through. And when you perceive the accompanying phenomena of a ghostly natural science, then you find that this modern age, with its ghostly natural science, will never allow that impulses for moral action come down from the spiritual world. The moral impulses with which men work to-day are of primeval origin, springing from times when atavistic forces were still strong; for people to-day, when impulses for action arise, will not ask the spirit, they will only ask nature: What is the nature of man? What kind of driving forces are there in human nature?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture Four","site_heading":"Christ's Intervention: Preventing Ahrimanic Knowledge Premature Flooding","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Erst wenn man darauf kommen wird, daß nicht der Mensch, sondern sein Gespenst so behandelt werden kann, wie die moderne Naturwissenschaft das tut, dann wird man auf diesem Felde das Richtige treffen. Aber man muß leben, und Sie werden mir ohne weiteres zugeben: So wie Sie hierher gegangen, hierher gekommen sind, wären Sie nicht hierher gekommen, wenn Sie bloß den Homunkulus, das Gespenst hergeschickt hätten, als welches Sie sich nach naturwissenschaftlichen Vorstellungen vorstellen müssen. Und säßen nur die Homunkuli da, die in Ihrem Bewußtsein von Ihnen selber leben, dann würde ich auch nicht zu diesen Homunkuli sprechen können! Sie tragen schon Ihren wirklichen Menschen hierher, aber nicht im Bewußtsein. Wohl aber muß das Zeitalter der Bewußtseinsseele den wirklichen Menschen ins Bewußtsein hereinkriegen. Es muß aufrücken vom Homunkulus zum Homo. Wenn das nämlich nicht geschähe, so würde der Mensch dahin kommen, auch den polarischen Gegensatz von seinem Gespenstischsein zu erleben. Wenn man sich nicht als Gespenst nimmt, sondern in seiner Wirklichkeit, wie es die Alten getan haben - die sich zwar als Gespenster vorgestellt haben, aber weil sie atavistische Kräfte in sich hatten, konnte die Wirklichkeit in sie noch hinein, während in den heutigen Menschen nur das herein kommt, was durch seine Bewußtseinsseele kommen kann -, wenn man aber in der Bewußtseinsseele nur das Gespenst vom Menschen hat, dann kommen durch diese Bewußtseinsseele moralisch-spirituelle Impulse nicht herein. Und wenn Sie sich die Begleiterscheinungen der gespenstischen Naturwissenschaft anschauen, ja, dann finden Sie schon, daß dieses neuere Zeitalter, das eine gespenstische Naturwissenschaft hat, niemals eigentlich gelten lassen will, daß aus der geistigen Welt selber Impulse herankommen für das sittliche Handeln. Diejenigen sittlichen Impulse, mit denen die heutige Menschheit arbeitet, sind uralt, stammen noch aus atavistischen Zeitaltern; denn die heutige Menschheit will nicht den Geist fragen, wenn Impulse für das Handeln herauskommen, sondern sie will die Natur fragen. Sie will fragen: Was ist die menschliche Natur? 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