{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 186/1918-12-13/p007","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Truly, infinitely much has become different—quite suddenly—different since the time of the 15th century when the fifth Post-Atlantean Age began, following as it did upon the Fourth which then came to an end. (The Fourth, as you know, had begun in the 8th century B.C.). Men only fail to notice how radically the constitution of soul in civilized mankind was changed in the transition, for example from the 13th or 14th to the 15th or 16th century. I have told you of many phenomena in the realm of Art, in the realm of Thought and in other realms of life, in which you can recognize the change. Today we will consider another aspect—an aspect which is of peculiar importance for the forces which are working themselves out in the present and in the immediate future. We may truly say: It is only since the beginning of the 5th Post-Atlantean Age that men have consciously observed the public economic and industrial life as to the way it enters into the social structure. Previously, these things, of which men think consciously to-day, came forth more or less instinctively. It is only towards the 16th century that men begin consciously to raise the question: What is the nature of the order of political economy? What is the best kind of economic order? What are the laws that underlie it? It is from considerations of this kind that the impulses of the socialistic world-conception have evolved even to our own day. Formerly these things had been ordered more or less instinctively, from man to man, from association to association, from guild to guild, corporation to corporation, and even from realm to realm. Only since the rise of the modern form of State which itself dates back, approximately, to the 16th century, do we see this conscious thinking about economic questions!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"I. The Transforming of Instinctive into Conscious Impulses","site_heading":null,"date":"1918-12-13","location":null,"word_count":306,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/186/1918-12-13/p007","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"C52","book_title":"The Fundamental Social Demand of Our Times","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA186/English/C52/19181213p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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Eigentlich wird ungeheuer vieles anders, und zwar mit einem gewissen Sprung anders, seit jener Zeit, wo sich dieser fünfte nachatlantische Zeitraum im fünfzehnten nachchtistlichen Jahrhundert an den vierten, der damals endete, anreiht — der, wie Sie wissen, im achten vorchristlichen Jahrhundert begonnen hat. Die Menschen merken nur nicht, wie sich eigentlich die seelische Konstitution der zivilisierten Menschheit beim Übergange zum Beispiel aus dem dreizehnten, vierzehnten in das fünfzehnte, sechzehnte Jahrhundert radikal geändert hat. Ich habe Ihnen ja auf künstlerischem Gebiete, auf dem Gebiete des Gedankens, auf anderen Gebieten mannigfaltige Erscheinungen angeführt, aus denen Sie diese Änderung ersehen können. Heute wollen wir noch etwas ins Auge fassen, was ganz besonders für die Kräfte, die in der Gegenwart und der nächsten Zukunft spielen, von Bedeutung ist. Eigentlich kann man sagen, daß in bewußter Weise das öffentliche wirtschaftliche Leben, das öffentliche nationalökonomische Leben, wie es sich in die soziale Struktur hineinstellt, erst seit dem Beginne des fünften nachatlantischen Zeitraums beobachtet wird. Vorher war das, worüber die Menschen heute nachdenken, mehr oder weniger instinktiv in die Erscheinung getreten. Im Grunde fängt man erst gegen das sechzehnte Jahrhundert zu an, bewußt die Frage aufzuwerfen: Was ist Volkswirtschaftsordnung? Was ist die beste Volkswirtschaftsordnung? Welche Gesetze liegen der Volkswirtschaftsordnung zugrunde? — Und aus diesen Betrachtungen entwickeln sich dann die Impulse der sozialistischen Weltanschauung bis heute. Früher waren diese Dinge mehr oder weniger instinktiv geordnet worden, von Mensch zu Mensch, von Assoziation zu Assoziation, von Innung zu Innung, von Korporation zu Korporation, oder auch wohl von Reich zu Reich. Erst mit dem Heraufkommen des modernen Staatsgebildes, das ja ungefähr auch erst seit dem sechzehnten Jahrhundert datiert, sehen wir das Nachdenken über wirtschaftliche Fragen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":382,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/186/1918-12-13/p005"}],"english":["GA 186/1918-12-13/p006","GA 186/1918-12-13/p007"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":382,"en_words":409,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.1,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8687,"original_word_count":7876,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"C52","book_title":"The Fundamental Social Demand of Our Times","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA186/English/C52/19181213p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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