{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 186/1918-12-14/p011","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I have already once drawn your attention to a thing that may well have astonished one or another among you; yet it needs to be deeply thought over. I said: The logical conclusion which one will tend to draw from such and such ideas, maybe from a whole “world-conception” are by no means always identical with that which follows from such a world-conception in real life. I mean the following: A man may hold a certain number of ideas or even an entire world-conception. You may envisage this world-conception clearly according to the ideas it contains and you may then perhaps draw further conclusions from it—conclusions which you will quite rightly presume to be logical, you may imagine that such conclusions, which you can logically draw from a world-conception, must necessarily follow from it. But that is by no means the case. Life itself may draw altogether different conclusions. And you may be highly astonished to see *how* life draws its different conclusions. What do I mean by this? Let us assume a world-conception which appears to you highly idealistic, and—we may assume—rightly so. It contains wonderfully idealistic ideas. You yourself will probably admit only the logical conclusions of your world-conception but if you sink this into another mind, if you take into account the reality of life even where it leads you across the chasms that separate one human being from another—the following may happen: and only Spiritual Science can explain the necessity of such a sequence. You instruct your son or daughter or your pupil in your idealistic world-conception, and they afterwards become thorough scamps and rascals. It may well happen in the reality of life that rascality will follow as the consequence from your idealistic philosophy!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"II. The Logic of Thought and the Logic of Reality","site_heading":null,"date":"1918-12-14","location":null,"word_count":289,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/186/1918-12-14/p011","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"C52","book_title":"The Fundamental Social Demand of Our Times","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA186/English/C52/19181214p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Sie können sich diese Weltanschauung rein begriffsmäßig vor Augen führen und dann vielleicht noch andere Konsequenzen daraus ziehen, Konsequenzen, von denen Sie mit Recht voraussetzen, daß sie logisch sind, und Sie können glauben, daß diese Konsequenzen, die Sie logisch daraus ziehen, notwendig aus dieser Weltanschauung folgen müssen. Das ist aber durchaus nicht notwendig, sondern das Leben selber kann ganz andere Konsequenzen daraus ziehen. Sie können höchst erstaunt sein, wie das Leben andere Konsequenzen daraus zieht. Was \"heißt das: das Leben zieht andere Konsequenzen? Nehmen wir einmal an, Sie bilden eine Ihnen recht idealistisch erscheinende Weltanschauung aus. Mit Recht, sagen wir, erscheint Ihnen diese Weltanschauung idealistisch. Sie enthält wunderbare idealistische Vorstellungen, wunderbare idealistische Ideen. Es kann der Fall eintreten, je nachdem diese Weltanschauung so oder so ist, daß Sie sie Ihrem Sohn lehren oder Ihren Schülern in einem bestimmten Lebensalter, lassen den Einfluß der Weltanschauung lebensvoll auf sie wirken. Sie selber werden wahrscheinlich nur logische Konsequenzen aus Ihrer Weltanschauung zulassen. Aber senken Sie das in ein anderes Gemüt, betrachten Sie das Leben auch über jene Abgründe hin, wo es von einem Menschen auf den anderen übergeht, so kann nämlich das Folgende eintreten, was Ihnen nur Geisteswissenschaft erklären kann als etwas Notwendiges: Sie bilden aus eine Ihnen idealistisch erscheinende Weltanschauung, die Sie mit Recht zu dem Glauben führt, daß alles, was Sie logisch aus ihr ableiten können, auch wiederum idealistisch, schön und groß sein müßte, und Sie lehren sie einem Sohn oder einer Tochter oder einer Schülerin, und die Betreffenden werden Schlingel, also Halunken. Das kann durchaus sein. Aus Ihrer idealistisch geformten Weltanschauung kann im Leben die Halunkerei folgen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":345,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/186/1918-12-14/p009"}],"english":["GA 186/1918-12-14/p011"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":345,"en_words":289,"ratio":0.84,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.09,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":9153,"original_word_count":8380,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"C52","book_title":"The Fundamental Social Demand of Our Times","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA186/English/C52/19181214p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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