{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 186/1918-12-14/p037","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"That is the one example. For the other, we may take our start from some of the things I told you yesterday. I said: It is characteristic how men have observed, ever since Ricardo, Adam Smith and the rest, that the economic order entails this consequence: That in the social life of man together, human labor-power is used like a commodity, brought on to the market like a commodity, treated like a commodity after the laws of supply and demand. As I explained yesterday, this is the very thing that excites and acts as motive impulses in the proletarian world-conception. Now one who merely thinks in the logic of concepts, observing that this is so, will say to himself: we must therefore find an economic science, a social science, a conception of social life, which reckons with this fact. We must find the best possible answer to the question: “Seeing that labor power is a commodity, how can we protect this commodity, labor power, from exploitation?” But the question is wrongly put, wrongly put not only out of theory, but out of life itself. The putting of questions wrongly is having a destructive, devastating effect in real life today. And it will continue to do so if we do not find the way to reverse it. For here once more the thing is standing on its head and must be set upright again, we must not ask: How shall we make the social structure so that man cannot be exploited, in spite of the fact that his labor power is brought on to the market like any other commodity, according to supply and demand.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"II. 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Wer bloß begriffslogisch denkt, der beobachtet, daß das so ist, und sagt sich: Also müssen wir eine Volkswirtschaftslehre, eine soziale Lehre, eine soziale Lebensanschauung haben, welche mit dem rechnet, welche in der möglichst besten Weise die Frage beantwortet, wie man, weil Arbeitskraft Ware ist, diese Ware Arbeitskraft schützen kann vor Ausbeutung des Menschen. — Die Frage ist falsch gestellt. Sie ist nicht nur aus der Theorie, sie ist aus dem Leben falsch gestellt. Falsche Fragestellung wirkt heute zerstörend, verwüstend, Raubbau treibend. Wenn nicht eine Umkehr stattfindet, wird sie immer mehr Raubbau treibend wirken. Denn hier muß ebenfalls dasjenige, was auf dem Kopf steht, auf die Beine gestellt werden. Es darf nicht gefragt werden: Wie muß man die soziale Struktur machen, damit der Mensch nicht ausgebeutet werden kann, trotzdem seine Arbeitskraft eben als Ware nach Angebot und Nachfrage auf den Markt gebracht wird wie eine andere Ware? 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