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In the year 869, the eighth general council was held in Constantinople, and that abolished the spirit, that established the dogma that man does not consist, as a Gnostic science had known until then, of body, soul and spirit, but the eighth Ecumenical ecumenical council decreed that man consists only of body and soul, and that the soul has some spiritual properties, hence the medieval scholastics had a terrible fear of speaking of the so-called trichotomy, of body, soul and spirit; because that was forbidden. Today's philosophy professors are not afraid, because they have overcome their fear; but they have not yet overcome the Roman commandment. They also only speak of body and soul, of a duality, and believe that they are impartially imparting unprejudiced science, while they are actually teaching Roman Catholic dogmatics from the eighth general council of Constantinople. They believe that it follows from their unprejudiced research, but they only say that because they are stuck in history.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Third Lecture","site_heading":"Cosmic Forces and Social Understanding Through Spiritual Thinking","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Im Jahre 869 war in Konstantinopel das achte allgemeine Konzil, und das hat ja den Geist abgeschafft, das hat das Dogma aufgestellt, daß der Mensch nicht besteht, wie bis an hin eine gnostische Wissenschaft gewußt hat, aus Leib, Seele und Geist, sondern das achte ökumenische Konzil hat bestimmt, daß der Mensch nur besteht aus Leib und Seele, und daß die Seele einige geistige Eigenschaften hat, daher die mittelalterlichen Scholastiker eine furchtbare Scheu hatten, von der sogenannten Trichotomie zu sprechen, von Leib, Seele und Geist; denn, das war verboten. Die heutigen Philosophieprofessoren haben zwar keine Scheu, denn sie haben sich die Scheu abgewöhnt; aber sie haben das römische Gebot noch nicht überwunden. Sie reden auch nur von Leib und Seele, von einer Zweiheit, und glauben, unbefangene vorurteilslose Wissenschaft zu tradieren, während sie nur römisch-katholische Dogmatik des achten allgemeinen Konzils von Konstantinopel eigentlich lehren. 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