{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 191/1919-10-10/p024","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Who to-day, for instance, comprehends the grand idea of the Greek “Fate”? The concepts of Roman jurisprudence do not help us much to-day, do they, towards the understanding of the “Oedipus.” Indeed, men seem altogether to have lost the capacity for comprehending tragic grandeur, owing to the influence of Roman legal concepts. And these Roman legal concepts have crept into our modern civilisation; they live in every part of it; they have become in their very essence a fictitious reality, something imaginary,—not something one imagines, but something that is imaginary. It is absolutely necessary for us clearly to see that, in our whole way of conceiving things, we have lost touch with reality, and that what we need is to impregnate our conceptions afresh with reality. It is because men's concepts are, at bottom, hollow, that our civilisation still remains unconscious of the need for the common co-operation of men all over the round earth. We are never really willing to go to the root of what is taking place under our eyes; we are always more or less anxious to keep on the surface of things. Just to give you another example of this. You know how in the various parliaments throughout the world in former days,—say, the first half of the 16th century, or a little later,—party tendencies took shape in two definite directions, the one Conservative the other Liberal,—which for a long time enjoyed considerable respect. The various other parties that have come up since were later accessions to these two main original ones. There was the party of a conservative tendency, and the party of a liberal tendency. But, my dear friends, it is so very necessary that one should nowadays get beyond the words to the real thing behind, and there are many matters about which one must ask, not what people, who stand for a certain thing, say about it, but what is going on subconsciously within the people themselves. If you do so, you will find that the people who attach themselves to one or other of the parties of a conservative tone are people who in some way are chiefly connected with agrarian interests, with the care of land and cultivation of the soil; that is to say, with the primal element of human civilisation. In some way or other this will be the ease. Of course, on the surface, there may be all sorts of other circumstances entering in as well. I do not say that every conservative is necessarily directly connected with agriculture. Of course there is here, as everywhere else, a fringe of people who adhere to the catchwords of a cause. It is the main feature that one has to consider; and the main feature is that that part of the population which has an interest in preserving certain forms of social structure and in keeping things from moving too fast, is agrarian.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"I. 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Und diese römischen Rechtsbegriffe haben sich in unsere moderne Zivilisation hineingeschlichen, leben überall drinnen; sie haben im wesentlichen zu einer Wirklichkeit dasjenige umgefälscht, was imaginär ist, nicht imaginativ, sondern imaginär.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":69,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/191/1919-10-10/p019"},{"locus":"GA 191/1919-10-10/p020","passage_number":20,"text":"So müssen wir uns durchaus klar sein darüber, daß wir eigentlich losgelöst sind von der Wirklichkeit mit unseren Vorstellungen, und daß wir nötig haben, unsere Vorstellungen neuerdings mit Wirklichkeit zu durchdringen. Weil unsere Begriffe im Grunde genommen leer sind, entbehrt unsere Zivilisation noch des Bewußtseins, daß die Menschen über den Erdkreis hin zusammenarbeiten müssen. Wir wollen nirgends eigentlich auf den Grund der Erscheinungen wirklich hinweisen, wir wollen überall mehr oder weniger an der Oberfläche bleiben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":75,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/191/1919-10-10/p020"},{"locus":"GA 191/1919-10-10/p021","passage_number":21,"text":"Dafür möchte ich Ihnen wiederum ein Beispiel angeben. Sie wissen, in den verschiedenen Parlamenten der Welt haben sich in den vergangenen Zeiten, sagen wir, in der ersten Hälfte des 19. Jahrhunderts, noch etwas später, zwei Parteirichtungen herausgebildet, vor denen man eigentlich bislang einen ziemlich großen Respekt hatte: eine konservative und eine liberale Parteirichtung. Das andere, was an Parteien aufgetaucht ist, ist ja erst später zu diesen zwei Grundparteien hinzugekommen. Aber sehen Sie, das ist heute so notwendig, daß man über die Phrase zur Sache vordringt, und daß man bei vielem nicht danach fragt, was die Menschen selbst, die es vertreten, davon sagen, sondern nach dem, was in dem Unterbewußtsein der Menschen drinnensitzt. Und da werden Sie denn finden, daß diejenigen Menschen, die sich zu irgendwelchen mehr konservativ gefärbten Parteien bekennen, solche sind, die irgendwie mehr zu tun haben mit Agrarischem, mit der Besorgung des Grundes und Bodens, also des Urgliedes der menschlichen Kultur. Selbstverständlich können an der Oberfläche allerlei Nebenerscheinungen auftreten. Ich sage nicht, daß jeder Konservative ein Agrarier sein muß, natürlich gibt es überall Zuläufer, überall gibt es solche, die aus der Phrase heraus irgendeinem Prinzip anhängen; aber man muß auf die Hauptsache sehen, und die ist, daß dasjenige, was ein Interesse daran hat, gewisse Strukturformen der sozialen Ordnung aufrechtzuerhalten, sie nicht zu schnell vorwärtsgleiten zu lassen, die agrarische Bevölkerung ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":222,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/191/1919-10-10/p021"}],"english":["GA 191/1919-10-10/p024"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":366,"en_words":485,"ratio":1.33,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 191/1919-10-10/p019","GA 191/1919-10-10/p020","GA 191/1919-10-10/p021"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.17,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7938,"original_word_count":6808,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"LA1963","book_title":"Cosmogony, Freedom, Altruism","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA191/English/LA1963/19191010p02.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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