{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 191/1919-10-10/p036","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Turning now to Asia,—indeed, my dear friends, Asia and Europe must learn to understand each other. But if things go on as they have in the past, then they will never understand each other, especially as Asia and America have to understand each other as well The Asiatics look at America and see that what they have there is really nothing more than the machinery of external life, of the State, of Politics, etc, The Asiatic has no taste for all this machinery; his understanding is all for the things that arise from the inmost impulses of the human soul. The Europeans have, it is true, dabbled in this same Asiatic spirit, the spiritual life of Asia; but it must be confessed that they have not, so far, given proof of. any very great understanding of it. Nor have they been in very perfect agreement, and the kind of disagreement that arose plainly showed that they had very little understanding of how to introduce into European culture what are the real actuating impulses of Asiatic culture. Just think of Mme. Blavatsky; she wanted to introduce into the civilisation of Europe every kind of thing out of the civilisation of India, of Thibet. Much of it was very dubious, that she tried to introduce. Max Müller tried another way of bringing Asiatic civilisation into Europe. One finds a good deal in Blavatsky that is not in Max Müller; and there is a good deal in Max Müller that is not in Blavatsky. But from the criticism Max Müller passed on Blavatsky it is plain how little insight there was into the subject. In Max Müller's opinion, it was not the real substance of the Indian spirit that Blavatsky had brought over to England, but a spurious imitation, and he expressed his opinion in a simile, by saying: That if people met a pig that was grunting, they would not be astonished; but if they met a pig talking like a man, then they would be astonished. Well, in the way Max Müller used the simile he can only have meant that he, with his Asiatic culture, was the pig that grunted, and that Blavatsky was as if a pig should start talking like a man! To me it certainly seems that there is nothing remarkably interesting about a pig grunting; but one would begin to feel rather interested if a pig were suddenly to start running about and talking like a man Here the simile of itself shows that the analogy they found was a very thin one and lies chiefly in the words. But people do not notice that nowadays; and if one does make bold to point out the absurd side of the matter, then people think one ought not to treat “recognised authorities” like Max Müller in that kind of way, it is not at all proper!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"I. 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Sie sind ja auch nicht recht einig geworden, und an der Art, wie sie uneinig gewesen sind, konnte man sehen, daß sie eigentlich nicht gerade mit Verständnis dasjenige in die europäische Kultur hereinzutragen wußten, was wirkliche Impulse der asiatischen Kultur sind. Denken Sie nur an die Blavatsky : Sie hat allerlei aus indischer, tibetanischer Kultur in die europäische Kultur hereintragen wollen; vieles ist anfechtbar, was sie hereinzutragen versuchte. Max Müller hat auf eine andere Weise asiatische Kultur nach Europa hereinzutragen versucht. Manches findet sich bei der Blavatsky, was bei Max Müller fehlt; manches steht bei Max Müller, was bei der Blavatsky fehlt. Allein an dem Urteil, das Max Müller über die Blavatsky gefällt hat, ist auch gut zu sehen, wie wenig man da auf die Sache eingegangen ist. Max Müller hat geglaubt, daß die Blavatsky nicht einen wirklichen indischen Geistesinhalt nach Europa gebracht hat, sondern eine Imitation, und das beurteilte er durch ein Bild, indem er sagte: Wenn die Leute ein Schwein sehen würden, das bloß grunzt, dann würden sie darüber nicht verwundert sein; aber wenn sie ein Schwein sehen würden, das so spricht wie ein Mensch, dann würden sie darüber verwundert sein. — Nun, so wie Max Müller das Bild gebraucht hat, so konnte er nur meinen, daß er mit seiner asiatischen Kultur grunzt wie ein Schwein, und in bezug auf Blavatsky meint er, es sei, wie wenn ein Schwein anfangen würde, wie ein Mensch zu sprechen. Mir scheint, daß es allerdings nicht hervorragend interessant ist, wenn ein Schwein grunzt, daß es aber schon einiges Interesse erwecken würde, wenn ein Schwein plötzlich herumlaufen und sprechen würde wie ein Mensch. Also das Bild zeigt schon, daß man eigentlich nach einem Vergleich gesucht hat, der gar sehr in der Phrase schwebt. Aber auf das geben die Menschen heute nicht acht, und wenn man wirklich ungeniert das Lächerliche einer solchen Sache hervorhebt, dann finden die Leute, daß man das nicht tun soll gegenüber einer, wie man sagt, anerkannten Autorität wie Max Müller; das schickt sich nämlich nicht. Aber das ist es gerade, daß sich die Zeit herangenaht hat, in der wir durchaus ehrlich und aufrichtig sprechen müssen. Dieses ehrliche und aufrichtige Sprechen, das macht notwendig, daß wir ungeschminkt solche Dinge, die die Zivilisationsgeheimnisse der Gegenwart sind, hinstellen: Anglo-Amerikanertum hat das Talent zur Kosmogonie; Europa hat das Talent zur Freiheit; Asien hat das Talent zum Altruismus, zur Religion, zu einer sozialökonomischen Ordnung.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":516,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/191/1919-10-10/p034"}],"english":["GA 191/1919-10-10/p036","GA 191/1919-10-10/p037"],"method":"reader","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":516,"en_words":557,"ratio":1.08,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 191/1919-10-10/p034"],"reader_part":true},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.17,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7938,"original_word_count":6808,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"LA1963","book_title":"Cosmogony, Freedom, Altruism","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA191/English/LA1963/19191010p02.html","evidence":null,"reason":"no_translator_named","note":"Neither the lecture's own page nor rsarchive's lecture list names a translator for it. 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