{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 191/1919-10-12/p019","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The consciousness that one is living out a spiritual life within one has gradually disappeared. That is the deeper-seated, spiritual root of the matter. If we go further back still, *before* the third post-Atlantean age, which ended about the middle of the 8th pre-Christian century,—beginning in the 3rd to the 4th millennium B.C., we come again to a quite different conformation. Paradoxical as it may seem to the men of to-day, in the 4th or, 5th millennium B.C. there was not a man on earth who believed that what was transmitted from his father and mother was the essential part of him. At that time men were absolutely convinced that they were wholly, in respect of all essentials, descended from heaven, if I may so express it. That was men's rooted belief. They did not look on themselves as being of earthly origin; they looked on themselves as spiritual beings, sprung from a spiritual origin. And the period when men first began to feel themselves to be physical human beings in the body was designated by the Jews, “The Fall,” at the beginning of things, when Original Sin first overtook man. As a matter of fact, however, Original Sin has overtaken man more than once. It overtook him first at the beginning of the 3rd post-Atlantean age, when he ascribed one part of himself to his father and mother, to his blood, and merely believed that a spiritual something had come down on top of that. It overtook him for the second time when he began to regard his Intellectual part as more or less hereditary. That second “Fall” came about in the 4th century after Christ; for from that time on, intellectual capacity was regarded as something hereditary, as something bound up with the bodily nature. 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Das ist der tiefere geistige Grund der Sache. Gehen wir weiter zurück, vor den dritten nachatlantischen Zeitraum, der also in der Mitte des 8. vorchristlichen Jahrhunderts schließt und im 3., 4. Jahrtausend beginnt, so kommen wir noch zu einer ganz anderen Struktur. So paradox es den heutigen Menschen erscheint, im 4. Jahrtausend oder gar im 5. Jahrtausend gab es keinen Erdenmenschen, der glaubte, das sei das Wesentliche, was an ihm von Vater und Mutter abstammt. Damals glaubten die Menschen durchaus noch, daß sie in bezug auf ihr Wesentliches vom Himmel heruntergestiegen seien, wenn ich mich so ausdrücken darf. Das war fester Glaube der Menschen. Sie sahen sich nicht als irdischen Ursprungs an, sie sahen sich als geistigen, als spirituellen Ursprungs an. Und die Juden verzeichnen denjenigen Zeitraum, wo die Menschen angefangen haben, sich als physische Menschen zu fühlen, als Menschen im Fleische zu fühlen, als den Sündenfall, als den Beginn, wo den Menschen die Erbsünde ergriffen hat. Aber eigentlich hat diese Erbsünde den Menschen mehrmals ergriffen. Zunächst hat sie ihn ergriffen im Beginne des dritten nachatlantischen Zeitraumes, als er einen Teil von sich auf Vater und Mutter, auf das Blut zurückgeführt hat und nur geglaubt hat, ein Spirituelles stülpe sich über ihn drüber. Das zweite Mal hat sie ihn ergriffen, als er begonnen hat, das Intellektuelle nurmehr als Erbliches anzusehen. Das war ungefähr im 4. nachchristlichen Jahrhundert, der zweite Sündenfall, denn von da an wurde die Intellektualität als etwas Erbliches angesehen, als etwas mit der Leiblichkeit Verknüpftes. 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