{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 192/1919-07-13/p010","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Those who swear by Goethe, swear by Hegel, and thereby simply adopt their dogmas, harm themselves and others. Those who truly want to be Goetheans today must not swear by Goethe dogmatically, but must develop further that which is present in Goethe in an embryonic form. And to an even greater extent this is the case with Hegelianism. In Hegelianism it becomes apparent what is actually present. This Hegelianism in the German development is a highly, highly characteristic phenomenon. For there is something present that is a characteristic of logical thinking in general. No one can actually understand what logical thinking is for the human being who does not understand something of spiritual science. For only spiritual science shows him that there is also another, a supersensible human being, not only the human being who appears to us as the sensual body. These two things, the supersensible and the sensual human being, blur into a single wild chaos for the contemplation of humanity, because what contemporary anatomy and physiology reveal about the human being is a wild chaos. But if one learns to properly distinguish the supersensible human being, of whom I also spoke twice in the recent public lecture, from the sensual human being, then one becomes acquainted with the strange paradoxical fact — spiritual facts are mostly paradoxical for sensual perception — that logical thinking would not exist at all for the development of humanity if people were not born into the physical body and developed there. For logic, especially when developed to its highest level, the sensory body is the appropriate instrument. Therefore, anyone who develops supersensible knowledge, who really immerses themselves in supersensible knowledge, must experience that it is extremely difficult to put this supersensible knowledge into words at all, but that if they want to grasp this supersensible knowledge with ordinary logic, that is, with what is only bound to the instrument of the external physical body, then this supersensible knowledge is killed for them. Then it is over with this supersensible knowledge. On the ground of logic, supersensible knowledge dies. For our human life, it must be brought to a mirror image, as it was with Hegel. But then one must not live in this mirror image, otherwise one is immediately out of the spirit. Therefore it is not the case that Hegel brought German thinking to the highest spiritual development, but that in this spiritual that Hegel offers, the most spiritless is contained, that there is no longer any spirit at all in Hegelism. That is to say: in Hegel the physical body grasps spirituality and at the same time squeezes it out. The highest logic, this Hegel; the most spiritless philosophy, this thought produced by the highest effort of the spirit! No wonder that it breaks down into the materialism of which we are aware, into Marxism, and that it becomes in this way a real phase of development in the nineteenth century.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Thirteenth Lecture","site_heading":"Language Crisis and Spiritual Thinking in Social Life","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Niemand kann eigentlich verstehen, was das logische Denken für den Menschen ist, der nicht etwas von der Geisteswissenschaft versteht. Denn diese Geisteswissenschaft zeigt ihm erst, daß es auch noch einen anderen, einen übersinnlichen Menschen gibt, nicht nur den Menschen, der als die sinnliche Leiblichkeit uns entgegentritt. Diese beiden Dinge, der übersinnliche und der sinnliche Mensch, sie verschwimmen für die Anschauung der Menschheit in ein einziges wüstes Chaos, denn das, was die gegenwärtige Anatomie und Physiologie überliefert über den Menschen, ist ein wüstes Chaos. Lernt man aber sachgemäß trennen den übersinnlichen Menschen, von dem ich neulich auch im öffentlichen Vortrag zweimal gesprochen habe, von dem sinnlichen Menschen, dann lernt man die sonderbare paradoxe Tatsache kennen — geistige Tatsachen sind zumeist für die sinnliche Anschauung paradox -, daß es ein logisches Denken für die Menschheitsentwickelung überhaupt nicht geben würde, wenn die Menschen nicht in den physischen Leib hineingeboren würden und dort sich entwickelten. Für die Logik, gerade wenn sie auf der höchsten Stufe entwickelt ist, ist der sinnliche Leib das entsprechende Instrument. Wer daher übersinnliche Erkenntnis entwickelt, wer wirklich sich hineinlebt in die übersinnliche Erkenntnis, der muß schon die Erfahrung machen, daß es außerordentlich schwierig ist, nun überhaupt diese übersinnlichen Erkenntnisse in Worte zu kleiden, daß aber, wenn er diese übersinnlichen Erkenntnisse mit der gewöhnlichen Logik auffassen will, das heißt mit dem, was nur an das Instrument des äußeren physischen Leibes gebunden ist, daß ihm dann diese übersinnliche Erkenntnis ertötet wird. Dann ist es aus mit dieser übersinnlichen Erkenntnis. Auf dem Boden der Logik erstirbt die übersinnliche Erkenntnis. Sie muß für unser Menschenleben gebracht werden zu einem Spiegelabglanz, wie es bei Hegel war. Aber dann darf man in diesem Spiegelabglanz nicht drinnen leben, sonst ist man gleich aus dem Geiste heraus. Daher ist es nicht so, daß Hegel das deutsche Denken zur höchsten Geistesentwickelung gebracht hat, sondern daß in diesem Geistigen, das Hegel bietet, das Geistloseste enthalten ist, daß gar kein Geist mehr im Hegeltum drinnen ist. Das heißt: der physische Leib erfaßt in Hegel die Geistigkeit und preßt sie zu gleicher Zeit aus. Höchster Logiker, dieser Hegel; geistloseste Philosophie, dieses dutch höchste Anstrengung des Geistes hervorgebrachte Denken! Kein Wunder, daß es umschlägt in den bewußten Materialismus, in Marxismus, und daß es so zu einer tatsächlichen Entwickelungsphase im neunzehnten Jahrhundert wird.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":472,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/192/1919-07-13/p010"}],"english":["GA 192/1919-07-13/p010"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":472,"en_words":491,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8363,"original_word_count":8023,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Humanistic Treatment of Social and Educational Issues","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA192/English/SOL2024/19190713p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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