{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 196/1920-01-17/p022","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Such conceptions create very different thought forms than the ideas that the average person has today. The thoughts that people have today do not extend into the supersensible life at all. Thoughts that people formed with such a connection to the mystery of Golgotha, as I have just characterized it, were suitable for evoking thought forms that had a reality in the supersensible. Therefore, one can also characterize the present moment in time by saying that humanity has gradually lost the ability to form such thought forms that have a meaning in the supersensible. Thus, one cannot create social orders on Earth that will advance it. Therefore, everything that has been introduced into humanity in the way of social ideas since about the sixteenth century bears the character that can be described as follows: We encounter social institutions according to the thought forms that are the thought forms of modern times. All such social institutions are destined to break down. They have no inner power of further development. That is even the secret of the newer development. No matter how willingly people may create social institutions on the basis of the external world-building that has taken place since the 16th century, all these social institutions carry the seed of death within them as they arise, because they are not connected to thought-forms that have a reality in the supersensible. As long as there are no people in the present who understand this, there is no point in talking about social progress at all. It is not a matter of deriving social ideas in an abstract way, perhaps out of some spiritual web of thought. That is not important at all. In my “Key Points of the Social Question”, for example, there is no long chapter about spiritual science from which social laws are then deduced, but reality itself draws attention to what has to happen. What matters is not that one deduces the social life from some spiritual web or other, but that one is oneself imbued with such thoughts, which are rooted in the supersensible. For it is this state of being imbued that makes it possible for everything one thinks to have a reality in the supersensible.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Fifth Lecture","site_heading":"Initiatory Science and Moral Renewal in Modern Society","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Daher kann man den gegenwärtigen Zeitpunkt auch so charakterisieren, daß man sagt: Die Menschheit hat allmählich die Fähigkeit verloren, solche Gedankenformen zu bilden, die im Übersinnlichen eine Bedeutung haben. — So kann man ja auf der Erde auch keine sozialen Ordnungen schaffen, die die Erde weiterbringen. Daher trägt alles das, was ungefähr seit dem 16. Jahrhundert an sozialen Ideen in die Menschheit hineingebracht worden ist, den Charakter, der sich etwa folgendermaßen schildern läßt: Wir treffen nach den Gedankenformen, welche die Gedankenformen der Neuzeit sind, soziale Einrichtungen. Solche sozialen Einrichtungen sind alle zum Zerbrechen da, das heißt, sie laufen eine Zeitlang, dann zerbrechen sie. Sie haben keine innere Kraft der Fortentwickelung. - Das ist sogar das Geheimnis der neueren Entwickelung. Die Menschen mögen auf Grundlage derjenigen äußeren Weltbildung, die sich ergeben hat seit dem 16. Jahrhundert, noch so willig soziale Einrichtungen treffen, alle diese sozialen Einrichtungen tragen den Todeskeim schon im Entstehen in sich, weil sie nicht mit Gedankenformen verbunden sind, die im Übersinnlichen eine Realität haben. Solange es in der Gegenwart nicht Menschen gibt, welche so etwas einsehen, ist mit dieser Gegenwart überhaupt über einen sozialen Fortschritt gar nicht zu sprechen. Es kommt nicht darauf an, daß man in abstrakter Art, vielleicht aus irgendeinem spirituellen Gedankengespinst soziale Ideen ableitet. Darauf kommt es gar nicht an. In meinen «Kernpunkten der sozialen Frage» steht nicht etwa zuerst ein längeres Kapitel über Geisteswissenschaft, aus dem dann soziale Gesetze deduziert werden, sondern es wird aus der Wirklichkeit selber heraus aufmerksam gemacht auf das, was zu geschehen hat. Darauf kommt es nicht an, daß man aus irgendeinem spirituellen Gespinst das soziale Leben herausdeduziert, sondern darauf, daß man selber erfüllt ist von solchen Gedanken, die im Übersinnlichen wurzeln. 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