{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 196/1920-01-17/p047","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"But not only that we have to take into account the fact that today we have numerous such people among us who work in this way, but also that we have to take into account the fact that for decades now, due to drowsiness, we have had a broad tolerance among the general public for this kind of thing, a reluctance to look at how public opinion is actually made today. But that is the most important part of what can lead to improvement. As long as people of the caliber of the Jesuit Zimmermann or the university professor Dessoir are not treated in the appropriate way, there can be no recovery. The people who stand opposite them and do not give them the right treatment are even more guilty than these individuals. For these individuals conduct their business in these matters, albeit in such a dirty way as Professor Dessoir. I characterized this to you some time ago. But it is a matter of finally waking up. Because a Dessoir book or a Zimmermann critique leads straight to these swamps, which I was able to characterize for you. I had to mention this not only with the intention of showing the symptoms of the forces that are effective in our time to suppress every legitimate spiritual aspiration, And so I would also like to mention the fact that I was recently given an article here that was supposedly intended for the Brockhaus Conversations Encyclopedia, for which the infamous Dessoir — infamous only with us! — was supposed to write articles about anthroposophy; at the same time that he had these articles of mine written by an intermediary, he was writing his book, this disgrace. But now consider the case that this article would lie here in our local archives! It would later be found there as an article that is said to come from me. So someone might say: Yes, Steiner copied the article in the archives from Dessoir's article in the encyclopedia and claimed it for himself! - Such blossoms can be driven when one is not awake! First one's things can be stolen by literary thieves, and then they can appear in such a way somewhere that not the one who made them but the one who stole them is considered the author and the one who is the author is considered the thief!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Fifth Lecture","site_heading":"Initiatory Science and Moral Renewal in Modern Society","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Die Menschen, die ihnen gegenüberstehen und ihnen nicht die richtige Behandlung angedeihen lassen, die sind schuldiger noch als diese Individuen. Denn diese Individuen betreiben bei diesen Dingen ihre Geschäfte, wenn auch in so schmutziger Weise wie der Professor Dessoir. Ich habe Ihnen das vor einiger Zeit charakterisiert. Aber es handelt sich darum, daß nun endlich aufgewacht werde. Denn von einem Dessoirschen Buch oder einer Zimmermannschen Kritik führt ein gerader Weg nach diesen Sümpfen hin, die ich Ihnen charakterisieren konnte. Ich mußte dieses auch nicht anders als in der Absicht anführen, die Symptome zu zeigen für die Kräfte, die in unserer Zeit wirksam sind, um jedes für den Geist berechtigte Streben niederzudrücken. Und so möchte ich auch noch die Tatsache erwähnen, daß mir neulich hier ein Artikel gegeben worden ist, der angeblich bestimmt war für das Brockhaussche Konversationslexikon, für das jener berüchtigte Dessoir — bei uns nur berüchtigt! - die Artikel schreiben sollte über Anthroposophie; in derselben Zeit, in der er durch einen Mittelsmann sich diese Artikel von mir schreiben ließ, schrieb er an seinem Buche, diesem Schandbuche. Aber denken Sie jetzt den Fall, daß dieser Artikel etwa hier liegen würde in unserem hiesigen Archiv! Er würde später einmal dort gefunden werden als ein Artikel, der von mir herrühren soll. Da würde also einmal jemand sagen können: Ja, den Artikel im Archiv hat doch Steiner abgeschrieben aus Dessoirs Artikel im Lexikon und für sich in Anspruch genommen! - Derlei Blüten können getrieben werden, wenn man nicht wach ist! Es können einem erst die Dinge durch literarische Diebe gestohlen werden, und dann können sie in einer solchen Weise figurieren irgendwo, daß nicht der, der sie gemacht hat, sondern der, der sie gestohlen hat, als der Autor gilt und der, welcher der Autor ist, für den Dieb gilt!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":387,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/196/1920-01-17/p048"}],"english":["GA 196/1920-01-17/p047"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":387,"en_words":397,"ratio":1.03,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.02,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6302,"original_word_count":6185,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Spiritual and Social Changes in the Development of Humanity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA196/English/SOL2024/19200117p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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