{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 196/1920-02-08/p011","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In the context of the world as a whole, one must have this view of one thing and that of another; but the less good also has its rightful place. Some people cannot understand this. We also try to prove the harmfulness of materialism; but on the other hand, we must recognize that materialism had to come into the 19th century. But now it must be overcome. Some people would like to take the easy way out on such questions. They say: the human body is just the tool in which the soul dwells; the soul is heavenly, the body is earthly, let us stick to the soul. That is a comfortable view of life. But it is to materialism's credit that it has taught people that the physical also has a share in the spiritual, that the body was organized under certain elements of the human race precisely to receive the spiritual. And the most outstanding people were those whom Christianity encountered. In the early days, when Christianity spread in Europe, the bodies of these European people were good instruments for receiving Christianity, because the physical brain, having developed in a certain way from the spiritual world, was a good receiving organ for Christianity. And while in Asia Christianity emerged after centuries or millennia of development in a culture that was only for souls, in Asia this Christianity encountered a decadent culture that was dying out, a soul culture that was good for ancient times but no longer good for the time in which Christianity took hold. In Europe, this Christianity encountered receptive people who were organized through their bodies to grow into this Christianity and to make their bodies into instruments for receiving Christianity; for there was still much spirit in these bodies, cosmic spirit, nature spirit. That is precisely the significance of the native population of Europe in the post-Atlantic period, that there was spirit in the bodies and that Christianity was received with this spirit in the bodies. But this spirit gradually disappeared, this spirit ceased. This spirit did not remain with the European bodies. And that is precisely the most essential thing about the transition that took place in the middle of the 15th century of the Christian era, that essentially the natural spirit that was in the human European bodies began to fade, that the bodies gradually became incapable of understanding from within what they had first received with fresh strength, because with physical strength, as Christianity. As a result, understanding of Christianity gradually declined from the 15th century onwards. Only tradition remained. The underlying conditions are actually misunderstood in ordinary external science. One believes that a human being is a human being, and one believes that one can study this human being by carrying corpses to clinics and anatomizing them. But that is the very least one can learn about a person, for the delicate constitution of these people changes almost from century to century. The human race of one century is fundamentally quite different in terms of its delicate constitution from the human race of the previous century. Because this does not occur in broad terms and cannot be established by rough scientific means, people do not want to know about it. But this human being is a very fine organization, and that which develops in succession over the course of time remains side by side. For gross anatomy, there is a belief, but it is only a belief: if you draw blood from a Westerner and draw blood from an Easterner, you are just drawing blood; blood is blood. But this view that blood is blood is complete nonsense before a truly deeper knowledge of humanity. I can only speak schematically about this matter and today I can only, I would like to say, state the results of extensive research. But these results are extremely important. If I were to draw something schematically – which, of course, would be different if it were drawn schematically rather than in real life – I would have to draw it in the following way. If I were to draw the blood clot in the living human body of a Westerner, I would draw it like this (see drawing a). If I were to draw the blood clot in the vein of a Russian person, I would have to draw it like this (see drawing b).","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Twelfth Lecture","site_heading":"Consciousness Evolution: Atlantean Divergence and Christian Incarnation","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Unknown is not an assurance of a stenogram: check the edition's own notes before resting an argument on one word.","evidence":null,"evidence_translation":null,"evidence_source":null},"paired_german":{"status":"paired","german":[{"locus":"GA 196/1920-02-08/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Im ganzen Weltenzusammenhang muß man über das eine diese, über das andere jene Ansicht haben; aber es steht auch das minder Gute durchaus an seiner berechtigten Stelle. Das können manche Menschen nicht begreifen. Wir versuchen auch, die Schädlichkeit des Materialismus nachzuweisen; aber wir müssen auf der andern Seite wiederum erkennen, daß der Materialismus bis ins 19. Jahrhundert kommen mußte. Nur muß er jetzt überwunden werden. Manche Menschen möchten es sich in solchen Fragen sehr bequem machen, sie sagen: Der menschliche Körper ist halt das Werkzeug, in dem die Seele wohnt; die Seele ist himmlisch, der Körper ist irdisch, halten wir uns an das Seelische. - Das ist eine bequeme Lebensauffassung. Aber das ist das Verdienst, das dem Materialismus zukommt, daß er die Menschen gelehrt hat, daß auch das Körperliche am Geistigen Anteil hat, daß schon unter gewissen Elementen des menschlichen Geschlechts der Körper organisiert war gerade zur Aufnahme des Geistigen. Und die hervorragendsten Menschen waren diejenigen, auf die das Christentum aufgetroffen ist. Eben in den ersten Zeiten, als sich das Christentum in Europa verbreitet hatte, da waren die Leiber dieser europäischen Menschen gute Empfangsinstrumente für die Aufnahme des Christentums, da war gerade das physische Gehirn dadurch, daß es sich in einer gewissen Weise aus der geistigen Welt heraus gebildet hatte, ein gutes Empfangsorgan für das Christentum. Und während in Asien das Christentum hervorgetreten ist nach jahrhunderte-, jahrtausendelanger Entwickelung in einer Kultur, die nur für Seelen war, aber in Asien dieses Christentum auftraf auf eine dekadente, auf eine im Absterben begriffene Kultur, eine Seelenkultur, die gut war für alte Zeiten, die nicht mehr gut war für die Zeit, in der das Christentum Platz griff, stieß in Europa dieses Christentum auf empfängliche Menschen, die durch ihre Leiber organisiert waren, in dieses Christentum hineinzuwachsen, ihre Leiber zu Empfangsinstrumenten des Christentums zu machen; denn in diesen Leibern war noch viel Geist, kosmischer Geist, Naturgeist. Das ist gerade das Bedeutsame der europäischen Urbevölkerung der nachatlantischen Zeit, daß in den Leibern Geist war und daß mit diesem in den Leibern befindlichen Geiste das Christentum aufgenommen worden ist. Aber dieser Geist verrauchte allmählich, dieser Geist hörte auf. Dieser Geist blieb nicht bei den europäischen Leibern. Und das ist gerade das Wesentlichste jenes Überganges, der stattgefunden hat in der Mitte des 15. Jahrhunderts der nachchristlichen Zeit, daß im wesentlichen da jener Naturgeist, der in den menschlichen europäischen Leibern war, anfing zu verrauchen, daß die Leiber allmählich unfähig wurden, aus sich das zu verstehen, was sie erst mit frischer Kraft, weil mit Leibeskraft, als Christentum aufgenommen hatten. Dadurch versank allmählich seit dem 15. Jahrhundert das Verständnis für das Christentum. Es blieb nur die Tradition übrig. Die Verhältnisse, die da zugrunde liegen, sie verkennt man eigentlich, in der gewöhnlichen äußeren Wissenschaft verkennt man sie vollständig. Man glaubt nämlich, Mensch ist Mensch, und man glaubt, man könne diesen Menschen studieren, wenn man die Leichname in die Kliniken trägt und da anatomisiert. Da erfährt man das Allerwenigste vom Menschen, denn die feinste Konstitution dieser Menschen ändert sich fast von Jahrhundert zu Jahrhundert. Die Menschheit eines Jahrhunderts ist im Grunde in bezug auf die feine Konstitution etwas ganz anderes als die Menschheit des vorigen Jahrhunderts. Weil das nicht im Groben auftritt und nicht mit groben wissenschaftlichen Mitteln zu konstatieren ist, deshalb wollen die Menschen nichts davon wissen. Aber dieser Mensch ist eine sehr feine Organisation, und dasjenige, was sich im Laufe der Zeit nacheinander entwickelt, das bleibt nebeneinander bestehen. Für die grobe Anatomie herrscht der Glaube, aber es ist nur ein Glaube: Wenn man einem westlichen Menschen das Blut abzapft und einem östlichen Menschen das Blut abzapft, zapft man halt Blut ab; Blut ist Blut. — Aber diese Anschauung, Blut ist Blut, ist ein völliger Unsinn vor einer wirklichen tieferen Menschheitserkenntnis. Ich kann über diese Sache nur schematisch sprechen und kann heute auch nur, ich möchte sagen, die Ergebnisse ausgedehnter Forschung angeben. Aber diese Ergebnisse sind außerordentlich wichtig. Sollte ich eigentlich schematisch etwas zeichnen — was selbstverständlich, wenn es nicht schematisch, sondern real gezeichnet würde, etwas anderes wäre -, so müßte ich es in der folgenden Weise zeichnen. Würde ich also das Blutgerinnsel im lebendigen menschlichen Leibe bei einem westlichen Menschen zeichnen, so würde ich es so zeichnen (siehe Zeichnung a). Sollte ich das Blutgerinnsel in der Ader bei einem russischen Menschen zeichnen, so würde ich es so zeichnen müssen (siehe Zeichnung b).","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":720,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/196/1920-02-08/p011"}],"english":["GA 196/1920-02-08/p011"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":720,"en_words":731,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5473,"original_word_count":5331,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Spiritual and Social Changes in the Development of Humanity","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA196/English/SOL2024/19200208p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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