{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 197/1920-07-30/p003","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Today I shall have to continue with some of the topics I discussed the last time I was here. It is particularly important, indeed necessary, to stress the connection between what I have said before and what I wish to add today. I have explained that the road to spiritual science calls for recognition to be given to two facts. One fact is that it is impossible to imagine that matter, physical substance, can be found to the outer world of our human environment. This can be clearly understood on the basis of many different things that can be learned through spiritual science. Our eyes behold the outside world, our ears hear the outside world, and we come to understand nature in a way when we use the intellect to combine the things we see, hear and Perceive with the other senses. We then think we know something about outer nature. Yet we are in error if we think and believe some form of science will help us to find physical matter and the laws pertaining to it in that outer nature. Materialism was in error not because it was speaking of physical matter but because materialists thought they could find physical matter and the laws of physical matter, its infrastructure and essential nature, in the outside world. People saying they do not want to know about the outside world because it is a material world, and that they want to follow the inner mystical path to a world of the spirit, are therefore materialists just as much as people who simply interpret the outside world in materialistic terms. Their search along the path of mysticism shows that in their view, too, Physical matter is to be found in the outside world. The people of more recent times are in error when they look for the essential nature of matter in the outside world. To put things right essentially means that we must no longer look for the nature of matter in the outside world and be very clear in our minds that however far we extend our sensory perceptions we shall never discover the nature of matter and its infrastructure, its laws. It has to be understood that all that exists in the outside world is Maya. It is the world of phenomena. Look as we may we shall never find anything material in that outside world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VII","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Reversing Materialist Consciousness","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wir sehen durch unsere Augen in die Außenwelt, hören durch unsere Ohren in die Außenwelt und bauen ein gewisses Naturerkennen dann auf, wenn wir dasjenige, was wir sehen und hören und durch die andern Sinne wahrnehmen, durch den Verstand verknüpfen und dann eben meinen, wir wissen etwas über die äußere Natur. Solange man so denkt und glaubt, in dieser äußeren Natur könne man — durch irgendwelche Wissenschaft von ihr — Materie und ihre Gesetze finden, so lange ist man im Irrtum. Und der Irrtum des Materialismus bestand nicht darin, daß er überhaupt von Materie sprach, sondern darin, daß man meinte, Materie und ihre Gesetze, ihr innerliches Gefüge, ihr Wesen in der Außenwelt finden zu können. Daher wird derjenige, der da sagt: Ich will von der Außenwelt nichts wissen, denn die ist ja die materielle Welt; ich will in meinem Inneren mystisch aufsuchen eine geistige Welt —, der wird ebenso zum Materialisten wie derjenige, der einfach diese Außenwelt im materialistischen Sinn interpretiert; denn er glaubt ja, daß in der Außenwelt das Materielle aufzufinden sei. Und darin hauptsächlich besteht der Irrtum der neueren Zeit, daß man in der Außenwelt das Wesen des Materiellen sucht. Darin wird die wesentliche Berichtigung bestehen, daß man in der Außenwelt nicht mehr das Wesen des Materiellen sucht, daß man sich klar darüber ist: wie weit wir auch den Bereich unserer Sinnesbeobachtung dehnen, wir können nirgends etwas finden von dem, was die Materie und ihre innere Struktur, ihre Gesetzmäßigkeit ist. Wir müssen uns klar sein, daß uns in der Außenwelt nur vorliegt dasjenige, was man im Orient Maja nennt, dasjenige, was wir Erscheinungswelt, phänomenale Welt nennen, und daß wir, wohin wir auch blicken, etwas Materielles in dieser Außenwelt nicht finden können.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":380,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/197/1920-07-30/p003"}],"english":["GA 197/1920-07-30/p003"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":380,"en_words":398,"ratio":1.05,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6265,"original_word_count":6008,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1987","book_title":"Polarities in the Evolution of Mankind","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA197/English/RSP1987/19200730p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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