{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 197/1920-07-30/p009","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Spiritual science working towards anthroposophy is a very serious matter. The seriousness of it is not given full recognition when people approach the work of spiritual science with their ordinary mental attitudes. They want to agree or disagree the way they usually do in the outside world; they want to continue in their habitual ways as they approach spiritual science. Spiritual science working towards anthroposophy can however only be taught by speaking in the terms of the world beyond. There words have entirely different meanings. Gravity, which exerts a downward pull here on earth, exerts an upward pull in that world. In the spiritual world we have to speak of what draws us down in a way that makes it the exact opposite. It is not surprising then that anyone taking spiritual science seriously is, to begin with, completely misunderstood by people who want to proceed in the customary way—a way that was inevitable in the age of materialism—when they approach spiritual science. The inevitable result is that things like those I dared to put to you yesterday are misunderstood.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VII","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Reversing Materialist Consciousness","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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In der geistigen Welt muß man von dem, was uns hinunterzieht, so sprechen, daß es genau umgekehrt ist. Daher brauchte man sich nicht zu verwundern, wenn derjenige, der es mit der Geisteswissenschaft ernst nimmt, zunächst ganz mißverstanden wird von denjenigen, die auch in die geisteswissenschaftlichen Gebiete hineintragen möchten die Gepflogenheiten, die sich nun einmal im Zeitalter des Materialismus ausgebildet haben. 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