{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 197/1920-07-30/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"These words I say to characterize the relationship of the human being to the non-physical world are weighty words. In one particular respect it is not yet possible to say the final word on the subject, because that would be too provocative. Very few people on this earth however are aware that basically it is an illusion to follow party lines, to accept the abstract notions of parties. There is no reality to it and when we begin to follow something that is real we must in fact follow something that lies in the spiritual world beyond the threshold. There is however one party that may immediately be characterized as being well aware of this secret and indeed acting upon it. This was said in public in the course of lectures given at Karlsruhe in 1911[^2] and has brought me the hatred of the party in question. These are the Jesuits. They know very well that to follow a party programme—forgive me for using a term commonly used in Germany—is nonsense. One follows a spiritual entity in the non-physical world! That is why their exercises start with the Jesuit having to visualize the spirit whom he is to follow in the Society of Jesus, forming a military corporation for him. When I say that the last word cannot yet be said, I want to hold back concerning the nature of what is called 'Jesus' there. The point is to show that Jesuitism forms a party that follows a spiritual entity and that Jesuits are very well aware that to follow some party or other that goes no further than a programme to be followed in the physical world is a nonsense. The effectiveness of the Society of Jesus is due to the fact that it trains its followers to be the soldiers of a spiritual entity. The do not say this is right and this is wrong. They say: ‘It is part of the mission of the spiritual entity I am following; I shall defend it. I shall oppose anything that is not part of the Mission of the spiritual entity I am following, even if it is logically defensible; it is just as possible to defend what Lucifer and Ahriman are about as it is to defend the things Christ is about. There are exactly three logical defenses and they are all equally valid.’","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VII","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Reversing Materialist Consciousness","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Aber eine Partei können Sie gleich so charakterisieren, daß sie sehr wohl dieses Geheimnis kennt und es auch befolgt. Und daß in dem Karlsruher Zyklus vom Jahre 1911 dieses öffentlich ausgesprochen ist, hat mir den Haß dieser Partei zugezogen. Das sind nämlich die Jesuiten. Die wissen ganz genau: Einem Parteiprogramm folgen — verzeihen Sie, daß ich mich eines in Deutschland gebräuchlichen Ausdrucks bediene -, ist Mumpitz. Man folgt einem Wesen der übersinnlichen Welt! Daher sehen Sie die Jesuitenübungen damit beginnen, daß der Jesuit sich zunächst vorzustellen hat denjenigen, dem er dann als die Kompanie Jesu nachfolgt, für den er eine militärische Korporation bildet. Und wenn ich sage, das letzte Wort kann nicht gesprochen werden, so möchte ich zurückhalten mit demjenigen, was das ist, was da als der «Jesus» getauft wird. Aber es kommt uns darauf an, zu charakterisieren, daß der Jesuitismus eine Partei bildet, indem er einem geistigen Wesen folgt, und daß er also dieses Geheimnis sehr wohl kennt: daß irgendeiner Parteiung zu folgen, die sich erschöpft in einem Programm innerhalb der irdischen Welt, Mumpitz ist. Und die Wirksamkeit des Jesuitenordens beruht darauf, daß er seine Angehörigen zur Gefolgschaft eines geistigen Wesens erzieht. Da heißt es nicht: Irgend etwas ist richtig oder unrichtig —, sondern da heißt es: Es gehört zu der Mission desjenigen geistigen Wesens, dem ich folge; das verteidige ich. Was nicht zu der Mission des geistigen Wesens gehört, dem ich folge, das bekämpfe ich, wenn es auch in logischer Beziehung verteidigt werden kann, denn logisch verteidigt werden können die Inhalte des Ahriman und Luzifer genauso wie die des Christus. Logische Verteidigungen gibt es in ganz gleichwertiger Weise gerade drei.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":364,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/197/1920-07-30/p014"}],"english":["GA 197/1920-07-30/p014"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":364,"en_words":395,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6265,"original_word_count":6008,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1987","book_title":"Polarities in the Evolution of Mankind","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA197/English/RSP1987/19200730p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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