{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 197/1920-07-30/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Mere refutation of materialism will not achieve anything, because the situation is like this where the human being is concerned: In their whole make-up human beings are really spirit and soul. This element of spirit and soul exists even before we are conceived, before we are born. It has evolved out of our previous earth incarnation; it has gone through the spiritual world. It now assumes flesh, creating a physical Image of itself that consists of nervous system, skeletal system, blood system. So we now have two things: the human being in soul and spirit and the human being of flesh and bone that is its image. When we are thinking the usual abstract thoughts, what is it that thinks in us? Not the human being of soul and spirit. It is particularly when we think abstract thoughts, above all using earthly logic, that the Physical brain in us is thinking. It is important to know that when materialists say that the brain does the thinking they are quite correct as far as abstract thoughts ar concerned. The physical brain is an image of the spiritual brain, and this image creates an image, abstract thinking being merely an image. It may thus be said that when it comes to abstract ideas the physical brain does the thinking.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VII","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Reversing Materialist Consciousness","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wenn wir nun gewöhnliche abstrakte Gedanken fassen, was denkt da in uns? Da denkt nicht der geistig-seelische Mensch. Gerade dann, wenn wir abstrakte Gedanken fassen, wenn wir am meisten mit irdischer Logik arbeiten, dann denkt in uns das leibliche Gehirn. Und das Wichtige ist, daß man weiß, die Behauptung der Materialisten, daß das Gehirn denke, ist ganz richtig für den Fall, daß in abstrakten Gedanken gedacht wird, denn das physische Gehirn ist ein Abbild des geistigen Gehirns, und dieses Abbild schafft ein Abbild, und das abstrakte Denken ist nur Abbild. 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