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When we penetrate our perceptions with thinking, we use this world of ideas to imprint it, as it were, on our spiritual and psychological experience, on what we have as a world of perception. But we need to look a little more closely at what is actually happening. And this can be done by directing one's own soul abilities through spiritual scientific methods, as described in my books. One can actually raise the question: What would it be like if our sensory perceptions only penetrated us from the outside, if only what penetrates our eye as color, our ear as sound, our sense of warmth as heat, and so on, from the light, what would happen to us then?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":215,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/198/1920-07-10/p008","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Healing Factors for the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA198/English/SOL2024/19200710p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Just imagine how you, surrendered through your eyes to the world of colors, would live in a surging, ethereally surging world of colors, how you, surrendered through your ears to the sounding world, would live in a surging sea of sound. This is not ethereal at first, but it would be ethereal if you did not provide the counterblow through ideas. The way in which sounds are for us human beings is the way they are in the etheric. We swim in the ocean of air and thus in the condensed etheric. It is therefore aetheric that is only condensed materially up to the air; the tones are only the air-shaped material expression of the etheric. And so it is with the warmth qualities, with the taste qualities, with the smell qualities, with all sensory qualities. So, imagine the counterattack of the world of ideas from within. Imagine that you live in an ethereal sea as an ethereal being. You would never come to that human consistency with which you actually stand in the world between birth and death. How can you come to this consistency? By being organized to kill this ethereal, to paralyze it. And how do we paralyze it? How do we kill it? Through the counter-attack of ideas! It is really so: the world of the content of perception in living ethericity (red) would come from outside, so to speak — if I am to draw schematically — and we would swim as etheric beings in living etheric substance, if we did not send out from within the counter-impact of the world of ideas (blue), which, as it is the world of ideas between birth and death, kills the etheric substance and allows us to perceive the world as a physical world. We would have an etheric world around us if we did not kill this etheric substance through the world of ideas, bringing it down to physical form. 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In fact, there is nothing in the current physiological literature as good as this little book by Dr. Stein regarding the physiology of the senses.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":72,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/198/1920-07-10/p011","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Healing Factors for the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA198/English/SOL2024/19200710p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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What we have in ideas is very different from the way an external event is formed in the dream fantasy; but in the world of ideas we nevertheless also have something that is nothing other than the reflection of a completely different world. And what world is it? We have often spoken of this. It is the world that the human being has gone through before birth, or let us say before conception. This is what is shadowed here in life, up to the abstract world of ideas, experienced in a concrete way. Between death and a new birth, we live in the reality of what is only present here in the world of ideas in these shadow images of concepts, perceptions and ideas. Just as the outer world shines into the dream, so the prenatal world shines into our world between birth and death, by having an effect on the formation of ideas. But while everything is alive in what the ideas are between death and a new birth, while what is real in the world of ideas touches our own being, while we touch our own substantial being by touching ourselves, as we now touch our physical body, only that which we do not even know is cast into this earthly life from the world of ideas. But we use this shadow of our spiritual existence to make our very existence on earth possible. What do the gods give us when they send us into this world through birth? They give us the shadow image of the existence we have between death and a new birth. These shadows are the ideas, and these ideas serve us here to become physical human beings at all, otherwise we would swim as ethereal beings in the ethereal sea. We kill off the etheric life with the shadow images of our life between death and a new birth.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":464,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/198/1920-07-10/p012","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Healing Factors for the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA198/English/SOL2024/19200710p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Here we say: When you think, when you look at the outer world through your senses and dull the etheric life that takes place in your eyes and ears with your ideas so that you can bear it and be human, then you do so with the inheritance, with the after-effect of your eternal human being, as you have developed it between death and a new birth.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":105,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/198/1920-07-10/p013","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Healing Factors for the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA198/English/SOL2024/19200710p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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It is precisely for this reason that this world of ideas is something so sober and abstract, because it is only the shadow image of the eternal and because it is basically intended to deadening the sense life that otherwise floods us ethereally.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":151,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/198/1920-07-10/p014","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Healing Factors for the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA198/English/SOL2024/19200710p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wo gebrauchen wir sie denn zunächst? Wir gebrauchen sie, wenn wir dasjenige, was von der Außenwelt auf unsere Sinne wirkt — Farben, Töne, Wärme und Kälte -, wenn wir das denkend durchdringen. Wir durchdringen unsere Wahrnehmungen denkend. Sie finden ja das Genauere ausgeführt in meinen Büchern «Wahrheit und Wissenschaft» und in der «Philosophie der Freiheit». Wenn wir die Wahrnehmungen denkend durchdringen, dann gebrauchen wir diese Ideenwelt, um sie gewissermaßen hineinzuprägen in unser geistig-seelisches Erleben, in dasjenige, was wir als Wahrnehmungswelt haben. Aber man muß doch etwas genauer auf das hinsehen, was da eigentlich geschieht. Und das kann man, wenn man durch die geisteswissenschaftlichen Methoden seine eigenen Seelenfähigkeiten zurechtlenkt, so wie das in meinen Büchern verschiedentlich beschrieben ist. Man kann nämlich die Frage aufwerfen: Wie wäre es denn mit den sinnlichen Wahrnehmungen, wenn sie nur von außen auf uns eindringen würden, wenn also nur dasjenige, was gewissermaßen aus dem Licht als Farbe in unser Auge dringt, was als Ton an unser Ohr dringt, was als Wärme in unseren Wärmesinn dringt und so weiter, wenn das nur auf uns einstürmte, was wäre denn dann mit uns?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":232,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p008"},{"locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Machen wir uns klar: Wir lassen im wachenden Zustande niemals diese Welt nur in uns einströmen. Wenn wir auch ein nur wenig aktives Denken in Ideen entwickeln, so bringen wir doch gewissermaßen aus dem Inneren heraus diesen auf uns einstürmenden Tönen, Farben, Gerüchen, Geschmäcken, überhaupt allen Sinnesqualitäten, den aus unserem Inneren aufsteigenden Gegenstoß der Ideenwelt entgegen. Und wer nun wiederum nicht nach der abstrakten Wortpsychologie der Gegenwart denkt, sondern wer wirklich beobachten gelernt hat, der kann sich fragen: Wie begegnen sich in unseren Sinnesorganen die von außen einstürmenden Wahrnehmungsinhalte und der Gegenstoß von innen, die Ideenwelt? — Sehen Sie, wenn wir bloß hingegeben wären an die Welt der Wahrnehmungen, dann lebten wir eigentlich als Menschen in unserem ätherischen Leibe und mit dem ätherischen Leibe in einer ätherischen Welt. Sie brauchen sich nur vorzustellen, wie Sie, hingegeben durch die Augen an die Farbenwelt, in einer wogenden, ätherisch wogenden Farbenwelt leben würden, wie Sie, hingegeben durch Ihre Ohren an die tönende Welt, in einem wogenden Tonmeer leben würden, das allerdings nicht ätherisch zunächst ist, aber es würde ätherisch sein, wenn Sie nicht den Gegenstoß durch die Ideen liefern würden. Nämlich so, wie die Töne zunächst für uns Menschen sind, so sind sie das Ätherische. Wir schwimmen im Luftmeere und dadurch im verdichteten Ätherischen. Es ist also Atherisches, das nur bis zur Luft materiell verdichtet ist; die Töne sind nur der luftförmig-materielle Ausdruck wiederum vom Ätherischen. Und so ist es mit den Wärmequalitäten, mit den Geschmacks-, mit den Geruchsqualitäten, mit allen Sinnesqualitäten. Denken Sie sich also weg den Gegenstoß der Ideenwelt von innen, denken Sie sich, Sie lebten in einem ätherischen Meere als ätherische Wesenheit, Sie würden niemals zu jener menschlichen Konsistenz kommen, mit der Sie eigentlich zwischen Geburt und Tod in der Welt dastehen. Wodurch nur können Sie zu dieser Konsistenz kommen? Dadurch, daß Sie darauf hinorganisiert sind, dieses Ätherische abzutöten, abzulähmen. Und wodurch lähmen wir es ab? Wodurch töten wir es ab? Durch den Gegenstoß der Ideen! Es ist wirklich so: Es käme gewissermaßen von außen her — wenn ich schematisch zeichnen soll — die Welt des Wahrnehmungsinhaltes in lebendiger Ätherität (rot), und wir würden als ätherische Wesen schwimmen in lebendiger Ätherität, wenn wir nicht hineinsenden würden von innen den Gegenstoß der Ideenwelt (blau), die so, wie sie zwischen Geburt und Tod Ideenwelt ist, das Ätherische ertötet und uns die Welt als physische Welt erscheinen läßt. Wir hätten eine ätherische Welt um uns, wenn wir nicht durch die Ideenwelt ertöteten dieses Atherische, es herunterbrächten zur physischen Gestaltlichkeit. Die Ideenwelt, so wie wir sie als Mensch haben, sie verbindet sich in unseren Gesamtorganen mit den Sinnesqualitäten, lähmt diese Sinnesqualitäten ab und bringt sie herunter bis zu dem, was wir eben als physische Welt erleben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":452,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p009"},{"locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p010","passage_number":10,"text":"![Diagram 1](images/198-02.webp)","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":0,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p010"},{"locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Das ist der Tatbestand. Sie können aus dem kleinen Schriftchen von Dr. Stein, aus seiner Dissertation, ersehen, wie nahe er da gekommen ist, durch eine geistvolle Interpretation dessen, was sich auf anthroposophischem Felde gewinnen läßt, diesem Charakter der Wahrnehmungswelt. Es ist tatsächlich in der gegenwärtigen physiologischen Literatur nichts so Gutes über die Sinnesphysiologie vorhanden wie dieses Büchelchen von Dr. Stein.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":60,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p011"},{"locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Also wir haben auf der einen Seite diesen Tatbestand, daß wir durch die Ideenwelt herabdämpfen das ätherische Gewoge der Sinnesqualitäten. Womit hängt das nun im weiteren zusammen? Es hängt im weiteren damit zusammen, daß unsere Ideenwelt, die wir als Mensch zwischen Geburt und Tod erleben als von innen aufsteigend, nicht in ihrer wahren Gestalt erscheint. Das können die Menschen nicht durchschauen, daß sie an den Ideen so, wie man sie erlebt als Mensch im physischen Leibe, nicht die wahre Gestalt dieser Ideen haben. Die Menschen sind noch so grob organisiert in der gegenwärtigen Zivilisation, daß sie gar nicht darauf kommen, sich zum Beispiel einmal zu sagen: Du fährst aus dem Schlafe auf, du hast einen ganzen Traum erlebt, der dir symbolisch ausgedrückt hat, was draußen auf der Straße «Feurio!» schreit. - Man erlebt symbolisch etwas, was draußen ganz anders ist. Was wir in den Ideen haben, ist eben sehr verschieden von dieser Ausbildung eines äußeren Ereignisses in der Traumphantasie; aber in der Ideenwelt haben wir dennoch auch etwas, was nichts anderes ist als das Hereinscheinen einer ganz anderen Welt. Und welche Welt ist es? Davon haben wir oftmals gesprochen. Es ist die Welt, die der Mensch durchgemacht hat vor der Geburt, oder sagen wir vor der Empfängnis. Das ist dasjenige, was hier im Leben abgeschattet ist bis zur abstrakten Ideenwelt, konkret erlebt. Zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt leben wir in der Realität dessen, was hier in der Ideenwelt nur in diesen Schattenbildern der Begriffe, der Vorstellungen, der Ideen vorhanden ist. So wie die äußere Welt in den Traum hereinscheint, so scheint die vorgeburtliche Welt herein in unsere Welt zwischen Geburt und Tod, indem sie nachwirkt in der Bildung von Ideen. Aber während alles lebt in dem, was die Ideen sind zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt, während da das, was in der Ideenwelt real ist, unsere eigene Wesenheit berührt, während wir da, indem wir uns selber berühren, unser ideelles Substantielles berühren, so wie wir jetzt unseren physischen Leib berühren, schattet sich herein in dieses irdische Leben von dieser Substantialität der Ideenwelt nur dasjenige, wovon wir nicht einmal wissen, daß wir aus ihm im Irdischen die Realität des eigenen Ich schöpfen. Aber wir verwenden diesen Schatten unserer geistigen Existenz dazu, um uns gerade die Existenz auf Erden möglich zu machen. Was geben uns denn die Götter mit, indem sie durch die Geburt uns hereinsenden in diese Welt? Sie geben uns mit das Schattenbild jener Existenz, die wir haben zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt. Dieses Schattenbild sind die Ideen, und diese Ideen dienen uns hier, um überhaupt physisch Mensch zu werden, sonst würden wir als ätherische Wesen im ätherischen Meer schwimmen. Wir töten ab das ätherische Leben mit den Schattenbildern unseres Lebens zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":462,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p012"},{"locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"So stellen wir den Menschen hinein in das ganze Universum, in den Kosmos. Da ist wieder einer der Punkte, wo wir wirkliche Menschenerkenntnis gewinnen. Da knüpfen wir das, was wir im gegenwärtigen Erleben haben, an das ewige Erleben an. Da sagen wir: Wenn du denkst, wenn du durch deine Sinne die äußere Welt ansiehst und mit deinen Ideen ablähmst das ätherische Leben, das sich in deinen Augen, in deinen Ohren abspielt, so daß du es ertragen kannst und Mensch sein kannst, dann tust du das mit der Erbschaft, mit der Nachwirkung deiner ewigen menschlichen Wesenheit, wie du dir sie herangebildet hast zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":108,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p013"},{"locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"So erweitern das menschliche Bewußtsein, so hineingießen in die menschliche Wesenheit etwas von dem Wissen, das uns verbindet mit dem ganzen Universum — das ist ein Bedürfnis der Gegenwart. Und alle äußere Wissenschaft wird abdorren, alle äußere Kultur wird hineinführen in den Niedergang. Der Tod des Abendlandes wird erfolgen, wenn die Menschen sich nicht entschließen, eine solche Menschenerkenntnis sich anzueignen, die aus der Beobachtung der äußeren Lebensverhältnisse den Menschen wiederum anknüpft an den Kosmos und so den Menschen anknüpft an den Kosmos, daß der Mensch, indem er hier erlebt die Ideenwelt, sich bewußt wird des Ewigen. Gerade darum ist diese Ideenwelt etwas so Nüchternes, Abstraktes, weil sie nur das Schattenbild des Ewigen ist und weil sie im Grunde hier dazu bestimmt ist, abzutöten das uns sonst ätherisch überflutende Sinnesleben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":129,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p014"}],"beads":[{"from":[8],"to":[8],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[9],"to":[9],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[10],"to":[10],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[11],"to":[11],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[12],"to":[12],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[13],"to":[13],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[14],"to":[14],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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