{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p009","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us be clear about this: when we are awake, we never let this world flow into us alone. Even if we develop only a little active thinking in ideas, we nevertheless bring, as it were, from within ourselves, to meet these sounds, colors, smells, tastes, and all sensory qualities that are rushing towards us, the counter-attack of the world of ideas that rises from within us. And anyone who does not think according to the abstract psychology of words of the present time, but who has really learned to observe, can ask themselves: How do the contents of perception that rush in from outside and the counterattack from within, the world of ideas, meet in our sense organs? If we were merely given over to the world of perceptions, then we would actually live as human beings in our etheric body and with our etheric body in an etheric world. Just imagine how you, surrendered through your eyes to the world of colors, would live in a surging, ethereally surging world of colors, how you, surrendered through your ears to the sounding world, would live in a surging sea of sound. This is not ethereal at first, but it would be ethereal if you did not provide the counterblow through ideas. The way in which sounds are for us human beings is the way they are in the etheric. We swim in the ocean of air and thus in the condensed etheric. It is therefore aetheric that is only condensed materially up to the air; the tones are only the air-shaped material expression of the etheric. And so it is with the warmth qualities, with the taste qualities, with the smell qualities, with all sensory qualities. So, imagine the counterattack of the world of ideas from within. Imagine that you live in an ethereal sea as an ethereal being. You would never come to that human consistency with which you actually stand in the world between birth and death. How can you come to this consistency? By being organized to kill this ethereal, to paralyze it. And how do we paralyze it? How do we kill it? Through the counter-attack of ideas! It is really so: the world of the content of perception in living ethericity (red) would come from outside, so to speak — if I am to draw schematically — and we would swim as etheric beings in living etheric substance, if we did not send out from within the counter-impact of the world of ideas (blue), which, as it is the world of ideas between birth and death, kills the etheric substance and allows us to perceive the world as a physical world. We would have an etheric world around us if we did not kill this etheric substance through the world of ideas, bringing it down to physical form. The world of ideas, as we have it as human beings, connects with the sensory qualities in our organs, paralyzing these sensory qualities and bringing them down to what we experience as the physical world.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Thirteenth Lecture","site_heading":"Ideas and Growth Forces: Bridging Prenatal and Posthumous Existence","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Und wer nun wiederum nicht nach der abstrakten Wortpsychologie der Gegenwart denkt, sondern wer wirklich beobachten gelernt hat, der kann sich fragen: Wie begegnen sich in unseren Sinnesorganen die von außen einstürmenden Wahrnehmungsinhalte und der Gegenstoß von innen, die Ideenwelt? — Sehen Sie, wenn wir bloß hingegeben wären an die Welt der Wahrnehmungen, dann lebten wir eigentlich als Menschen in unserem ätherischen Leibe und mit dem ätherischen Leibe in einer ätherischen Welt. Sie brauchen sich nur vorzustellen, wie Sie, hingegeben durch die Augen an die Farbenwelt, in einer wogenden, ätherisch wogenden Farbenwelt leben würden, wie Sie, hingegeben durch Ihre Ohren an die tönende Welt, in einem wogenden Tonmeer leben würden, das allerdings nicht ätherisch zunächst ist, aber es würde ätherisch sein, wenn Sie nicht den Gegenstoß durch die Ideen liefern würden. Nämlich so, wie die Töne zunächst für uns Menschen sind, so sind sie das Ätherische. Wir schwimmen im Luftmeere und dadurch im verdichteten Ätherischen. Es ist also Atherisches, das nur bis zur Luft materiell verdichtet ist; die Töne sind nur der luftförmig-materielle Ausdruck wiederum vom Ätherischen. Und so ist es mit den Wärmequalitäten, mit den Geschmacks-, mit den Geruchsqualitäten, mit allen Sinnesqualitäten. Denken Sie sich also weg den Gegenstoß der Ideenwelt von innen, denken Sie sich, Sie lebten in einem ätherischen Meere als ätherische Wesenheit, Sie würden niemals zu jener menschlichen Konsistenz kommen, mit der Sie eigentlich zwischen Geburt und Tod in der Welt dastehen. Wodurch nur können Sie zu dieser Konsistenz kommen? Dadurch, daß Sie darauf hinorganisiert sind, dieses Ätherische abzutöten, abzulähmen. Und wodurch lähmen wir es ab? Wodurch töten wir es ab? Durch den Gegenstoß der Ideen! Es ist wirklich so: Es käme gewissermaßen von außen her — wenn ich schematisch zeichnen soll — die Welt des Wahrnehmungsinhaltes in lebendiger Ätherität (rot), und wir würden als ätherische Wesen schwimmen in lebendiger Ätherität, wenn wir nicht hineinsenden würden von innen den Gegenstoß der Ideenwelt (blau), die so, wie sie zwischen Geburt und Tod Ideenwelt ist, das Ätherische ertötet und uns die Welt als physische Welt erscheinen läßt. Wir hätten eine ätherische Welt um uns, wenn wir nicht durch die Ideenwelt ertöteten dieses Atherische, es herunterbrächten zur physischen Gestaltlichkeit. Die Ideenwelt, so wie wir sie als Mensch haben, sie verbindet sich in unseren Gesamtorganen mit den Sinnesqualitäten, lähmt diese Sinnesqualitäten ab und bringt sie herunter bis zu dem, was wir eben als physische Welt erleben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":452,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/198/1920-07-10/p009"}],"english":["GA 198/1920-07-10/p009"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":452,"en_words":509,"ratio":1.13,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5786,"original_word_count":5526,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Healing Factors for the Social Organism","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA198/English/SOL2024/19200710p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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