{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 198/1920-07-10/p016","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"If we now look at the other pole, we see that man has in the phantasms, from which he also forms his memory images, something in which his I surges and surges, but often surges and surges in a chaotic way. Although man knows that his I lives in it, he does not rely on letting himself be told something about the nature of this I from the phantasms. If we look at the facts — and you can see this in the most diverse passages of our anthroposophical literature —, we have to ask ourselves: What exactly is it that develops from within us as the sum of our memory images, or, for that matter, as the sum of our imaginative images? It is nothing other than the transformation of that which, before it is metamorphosed into the power of memory or the power of imagination, lives in us as a growth force. What lives in the body as a growth force, when it emancipates itself from the physical, becomes the soul-spiritual power of memory. You know that up to the age of seven, when the change of teeth occurs, the same force appears in the human being that later forms well-contoured memories in the soul memory; it works on the body, shaping it. What ultimately drives out the teeth is the same force that lives in us as the power of imagination. In short, in what lives in us as phantasms, we have the same power that actually makes us grow, that underlies our becoming organic. We emancipate it from the organism. What does that mean?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Thirteenth Lecture","site_heading":"Ideas and Growth Forces: Bridging Prenatal and Posthumous Existence","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Durchschaut man wiederum den Tatbestand - und Sie können das entnehmen aus den verschiedensten Stellen unserer anthroposophischen Literatur —, so muß man sich fragen: Was ist denn das eigentlich, was sich da als die Summe unserer Erinnerungsvorstellungen, meinetwillen auch als die Summe unserer Phantasievorstellungen, aus unserem Inneren entwickelt? — Es ist nichts anderes als die Umbildung desjenigen, was, bevor es sich metamorphosiert zu der Kraft der Erinnerung, zu der Kraft der Phantasie, in uns lebt als Wachstumskraft. Was unten im Leibe lebt als Wachstumskraft, wenn es sich von dem Leiblichen emanzipiert, wird geistig-seelisch Erinnerungskraft. Sie wissen ja, bis zum siebenten Lebensjahre, wo der Zahnwechsel eintritt, erscheint im Menschen dieselbe Kraft, die später wohlkonturierte Erinnerungen ausbildet im seelischen Gedächtmis; die arbeitet an seinem Leibe gestaltend. Was zuletzt die Zähne heraustreibt, ist dasselbe, was in uns lebt als Erinnerungs-Vorstellungsvermögen. Kurz, wir haben in dem, was da als Phantasmen in uns lebt, dieselbe Kraft, die eigentlich uns wachsen macht, die unserem Organischwerden zugrunde liegt. Wir emanzipieren sie von dem Organismus. 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