{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 199/1920-08-14/p021","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Mankind is indeed striving for freedom, freedom for the individual, and rightfully so. I emphasize: rightfully so. It is no longer possible for human beings to cooperate with group souls in the sense of the ancient group system. They have to develop into individualities. This striving, however, seems to be at variance with what is acquired by listening to initiation science, something that must obviously originate from individual persons in the first place. The ancient initiate had his own ways and means of seeking out his pupils and passing on to them the initiation wisdom, even of gaining recognition for them, himself and his Mystery center. The modern initiate cannot allow that, for it would necessitate working with certain forces and impulses of the group soul nature, something that is not permissible today. Thus, humanity's condition today is one where everyone, proceeding from whatever his standpoint happens to be, wishes to become an individuality. For that reason, he naturally does not care to listen to what comes from a human being as initiation science. Yet, no progress can be made until it is understood that men can become individualities only when, in turn, they accept the content of initiation science from other individualities. This is not only related to isolated ideological questions. It is connected with the basic nature of our whole age and its effects on the cultural, political and economic spheres. Humanity is yearning for freedom, and initiation science would like to speak of this freedom. We have, however, only just reached the point in the stage of mankind's evolution where sound human reasoning can grasp the idea of freedom. Today, we must gain insight into much that can be gathered from anthroposophical literature, and that I should like to summarize in turn from a number of viewpoints. It must be understood today what sort of being man is. All the abstract chatter concerning monism misses the point of true monism which can only be attained after one has gone through much else, but it cannot be proclaimed from the first as a world conception.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IV","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Overcoming Materialism Through Initiation","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Die Menschen müssen Individualitäten bilden. Aber dieses Streben, Individualitäten zu bilden, das scheint zu widersprechen dem Hinhorchen auf das, was aus der Initiationswissenschaft kommt und was ja selbstverständlich zunächst durch einzelne Individuen kommen muß. Der alte Initiierte hatte Mittel und Wege, sich seine Schüler auszusuchen, seinen Schülern die Initiationsweisheit zu übertragen und auch Anerkennung für sie zu schaffen und Anerkennung für sich und seine Mysterienstätte. Der moderne Initiierte kann das nicht haben, denn es würde notwendig machen, daß man aus gewissen Kräften und Impulsen der Gruppenseelenhaftigkeit heraus wirke, und das geht heute nicht. So steht heute die Menschheit da; jeder möchte von dem Standpunkte aus, auf dem er gerade steht, eine Individualität werden. Da will er selbstverständlich nicht auf das hören, was da durch Menschen als Initiationswissenschaft kommt. Aber ehe nicht die Menschen einsehen, daß sie nur gerade dadurch Individualitäten werden können, daß sie wiederum durch andere menschliche Individualitäten den Inhalt der Initiationswissenschaft aufnehmen, eher kann es nicht besser werden. Das hängt nicht nur zusammen mit einzelnen Weltanschauungsfragen, das hängt zusammen mit dem Grundcharakter unseres ganzen Zeitalters und mit den Auswirkungen dieses Zeitalters auf geistigem, auf staatlichem und wirtschaftlichem Gebiete. Nach Freiheit dürstet die Menschheit. Von Freiheit möchte die Initiationswissenschaft sprechen. Wir sind aber im gegenwärtigen Entwickelungsstadium der Menschheit eigentlich erst da angekommen, wo Freiheit durch den gesunden Menschenverstand wirklich begriffen werden kann. Heute muß man manches einsehen, was Sie aus unserer anthroposophischen Literatur entnehmen können und was ich hier wiederum von gewissen Gesichtspunkten aus kurz zusammenfassen möchte. Man muß heute begreifen, was für eine Art von Wesen der Mensch ist. 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