{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 199/1920-08-14/p026","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It is the same in the other direction. If, with our ordinary powers of cognition, we could penetrate the soul-spiritual concerning which I told you last Sunday that this is what is in truth located behind the world of the senses rather than atoms and molecules—and if we were not prevented, so to speak, by the boundaries and barriers of natural science, there would not be present in us something that is, in turn, needed in human life and must be developed by us between birth and death, namely, the capacity for love. The human capacity for love is created in us by the fact that, in this life between birth and death, if we do not advance to spiritual science, we have to forego penetrating the veil of the senses and seeing into the spiritual world. We retain the capacity of memory only by renouncing all ability to see into our own physical body. Thereby, however, we are exposed to two great illusions. The dogmatic adherents of the natural scientific world conception are at the mercy of one of these illusions. They pay no attention to initiation knowledge and do not come to the realization—in the way I described it to you last Sunday[^9]—that behind the veil of the senses there is no matter, no substance, no energy, of which natural science speaks, but soul-spiritual being through and through. Today, I must still reiterate with the same emphasis what I stressed in my commentary on the third volume of Goethe's scientific writings, namely, Goethe's *Theory of Color*.[^10] Out there is the world's carpet of colors, the red, blue and green; out there are the other perceptions. No atoms and molecules are concealed behind it all, but spiritual beings. What is driven to the surface from these spiritual beings lives and expresses itself in the world's carpet of colors, in its relationships of sound and warmth and all the other sensations the world transmits to us.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IV","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Overcoming Materialism Through Initiation","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Würden wir das Geistig-Seelische, von dem ich Ihnen ja letzten Sonntag zeigte, wie es hinter dem Sinnlichen ist — nicht Atome oder Moleküle sind dahinter, sondern das Geistig-Seelische ist da in Wahrheit dahinter —, würden wir dies mit unserem gewöhnlichen alltäglichen Erkenntnisvermögen durchschauen, würden wir uns gewissermaßen nicht stoßen an den Pfählen, an den Grenzen der Naturwissenschaft, dann wäre in uns das nicht vorhanden, was wir wiederum zum menschlichen Leben brauchen, was wir erziehen müssen hier zwischen Geburt und Tod, dann wäre in uns nicht vorhanden die menschliche Liebefähigkeit. Die menschliche Liebefähigkeit wird in uns dadurch erzogen, daß wir zunächst in diesem Leben zwischen Geburt und Tod, wenn wir nicht zur Geisteswissenschaft schreiten, zu verzichten haben auf das Durchschauen des Sinnenschleiers, auf das Hineinschauen in die geistige Welt. Und Erinnerungsvermögen können wir nur dadurch haben, daß wir verzichten auf das Hineinschauen in das Leiblich-Physische. Dadurch aber sind wir zwei großen Täuschungen ausgesetzt. Der einen Täuschung unterliegen die dogmatischen Anhänger der naturwissenschaftlichen Weltanschauung. Sie hören nicht hin auf die Initiationswissenschaft und kommen nicht in der Art, wie ich Ihnen das letzten Sonntag auseinandergesetzt habe, darauf, daß hinter dem Sinnenschleier nicht Materie, nicht Stoff, nicht das, was die Naturwissenschaft Kraft nennt, vorhanden ist, sondern durch und durch geistig-seelische Wesenheit. Es ist auch heute von mir noch mit aller Schärfe dasselbe zu betonen, was ich in meinem Kommentar zum dritten Bande von Goethes naturwissenschaftlichen Schriften, zu Goethes «Farbenlehre» hervorgehoben habe. Da draußen ist der Farbenteppich der Welt, da draußen ist Rot und Blau und Grün, und da draußen sind die andern Empfindungen. Hinter diesen stecken nicht Atome, stecken nicht Moleküle, hinter diesen stecken geistige Wesenheiten. 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