{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 199/1920-08-14/p031","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It will be the specific task of true spiritualism to unveil the nature of all matter. Then it will be able to show how spirit is effective in matter. It must be taken quite seriously that spiritual science ought not to be concerned with the mere logicality of knowledge, but has to aim for a knowledge that is action. Something must be done—with regard to knowing. What is taking place in the process of cognizing must become involved in the course of world events. It must be something factual. It was just this that I was trying to indicate last Sunday and the days before. It is a matter of arriving at the realization that spirit as such must be comprehended as a fact; no theory concerning the spirit may be developed. Theories should only serve to lead to living experience of the spirit. This is the reason why it is so often necessary for the true spiritual scientist to speak paradoxically. We cannot persist today in talking in the customary formulations when we speak about spiritual science; otherwise, we come to what an erroneous theosophy has led to. It mentions any number of the members of man's being—the physical man, the etheric and astral being—each one more tenuous than the last. Physical man is dense, the etheric is less so, the astral being is still more rarefied. There are utterly tenuous mental and other states that are increasingly delicate, a perceptible mist, but all remain a mist, they all remain matter! That, however, is not the point. What does matter is that one learns in substance itself to overcome material. This is why one must frequently employ words that have a different connotation from the one customary in everyday life.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IV","site_heading":"Spirit and Matter: Overcoming Materialism Through Initiation","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Dann wird er zeigen können, wie der Geist im Materiellen wirkt. Denn das muß ganz ernst genommen werden: Geisteswissenschaft darf nicht auf die bloße Logizität der Erkenntnis, sondern muß auf die Erkenntnis als Tat gehen. Es muß etwas getan werden im Erkennen. Es muß das, was im Erkennen sich abspielt, in den Gang der Weltereignisse eingreifen. Es muß etwas Tatsächliches sein. Gerade darauf habe ich mich ja bemüht, letzten Sonntag und in den vorhergehenden Tagen hinzuweisen. Es handelt sich einmal darum, daß man einsehe: Der Geist als solcher muß als Tatsache verstanden werden, es darf nicht eine Theorie vom Geiste ausgebildet werden. Theorien sollen dazu da sein, um zum lebendigen Empfinden des Geistes zu führen. Aus diesem Grunde ist es notwendig, daß von dem wirklichen Geisteswissenschafter so oft paradox gesprochen wird. Man kann heute nicht fortfahren, in den landläufigen Formeln zu sprechen, wenn man von wahrer Geisteswissenschaft spricht, sonst kommt man eben zu dem, wozu eine verderbliche 'Theosophie geführt hat, welche von allen möglichen Gliedern der Menschennatur spricht, vom physischen Menschen, vom ätherischen, vom astralischen Menschen; aber das wird immer nur «dünner». Der physische Mensch ist dicht, der ätherische ist dünner, der astralische ist noch dünner, dann gibt es ganz dünne, mentale und was noch alles, es wird immer dünner und dünner, ein wahrgenommener Nebel, aber Nebel bleibt es, es bleibt Materie! Darauf kommt es nämlich nicht an. Es kommt darauf an, daß man in der Substanz das Materielle überwindet. 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