{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 201/1920-04-16/p026","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Where the Sun is, is emptier than empty space. This can be said of all parts of the Universe where we find Ether. For this reason it is so difficult for the physicist to speak of Ether, for he thinks that Ether is also matter, though more rarefied than ordinary matter. Materialism is still very busy with this perpetual ‘rarefying’, both the materialism of natural science as well as the materialism of Theosophy. It distinguishes first, dense matter; then etheric matter—more rarefied; then astral matter—still more rarefied; and then there is the ‘mental’ and I do not know what else—always more and more rarefied!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture Four","site_heading":"The Breathing Cosmos: Lunar Rhythms and Spiritual Worlds","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Deshalb wird es den Physikern so schwer, vom Äther zu sprechen, weil sie immer denken, der Äther ist auch Materie, aber dünner: dünner als die gewöhnliche Materie. Auf das Dünnere läßt sich der Materialismus noch ein, sowohl der naturwissenschaftliche Materialismus wie auch der theosophische Materialismus — aufs Dünnere, aufs immer Dünnere läßt er sich noch ein. Dichte Materie, die Äthermaterie ist dünner, die astralische Materie wieder dünner, und dann, nun dann sind da diese mentalischen Materien und was da alles ist immer dünner und dünner. Aufs Dünnere läßt sich dieser theosophische Materialismus ein, gerade wie der naturwissenschaftliche Materialismus, nur daß der eine etwas mehr Nummern aufzählt im Dünnerwerden als der andere. Aber es handelt sich beim Übergang von der gewöhnlichen wägbaren, gewichtigen Materie zum Äther gar nicht darum, daß es dünner wird. Wer da glaubt - ich möchte das Bild noch einmal vor Ihre Seele hinstellen -, daß es sich beim Äther nur um das Dünnerwerden der Materie handelt, der steht auf demselben Boden wie der, der sagt: Ich habe hier eine Schatulle voll Geld, nehme davon weg und nehme davon weg, das Geld wird immer weniger und weniger. Zuletzt wird es Null und man ist am Ende. — Aber nicht wahr, es kann ja noch weniger werden, wenn man Schulden macht. Da wird es weniger als Null. So wird die Materie nicht bloß leerer Raum, sondern sie wird negativ, sie wird weniger als nichts, sie wird saugend. Und der Äther ist saugend. Die Materie ist drückend, der Äther ist saugend. Die Sonne ist ganz ein Ball, der eigentlich saugt. 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