{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 201/1920-05-02/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"These are things that must be brought to light by Spiritual Science. They have quite disappeared. About six or seven centuries before the Christian era, the ancient primeval wisdom began gradually to disappear, until replaced by Philosophy from the middle of the fifteenth century. But men such as Pythagoras, for instance, still knew so much of the ancient wisdom that they could say: We dwell on the Earth, we belong through the Earth to a cosmic system, to which Jupiter and Saturn also belong; but if we remain in these three dimensions, then we shall not belong in the same way to Venus and Mercury. We cannot belong to the two latter directly, as we do to Saturn and Jupiter; but if our Earth is in one space with Saturn and Jupiter, there must be a ‘ *counter-Earth*’ which is in another space with Venus and Mercury. Hence ancient astronomers spoke of the Earth and the counter-Earth. Of course the modern materialist would say: “Counter-Earth? I see nothing of that!” He is like a person who weighs a man, having first charged him to think about nothing, and weighs him again when he has charged him to think a specially clever thought, and then says: I have weighed him, but I have not found the weight of his thought. Materialism rejects what has no weight or cannot be seen. Remarkable things however shine out of the atavistic primeval wisdom to which we can return by the inner vision of Spiritual Science. It is of urgent necessity that we should work our way through now to that which is entirely new and which has yet been on Earth all the time, and has only now in these days to be acquired in full consciousness. 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Aber Menschen wie zum Beispiel Pythagoras haben aus der alten Urweisheit noch so viel gewußt, daß sie zum Beispiel sagen konnten, oder wenigstens Zeitgenossen des Pythagoras sagen konnten: Ja, wir wohnen auf der Erde, wir gehören dutch diese Erde einem Weltsystem an, dem Saturn und Jupiter angehören; aber wenn wir in dieser Dimensionalität drinnenbleiben, dann finden wir da drinnen nicht ein ebensolches Zugehören zu Venus und Merkur. Und wenn wir zu Venus und Merkur gehören wollen, dann können wir nicht so unmittelbar dazugehören, wie wir zu Saturn und Jupiter gehören, sondern wenn unsere Erde in einem gemeinschaftlichen Raum ist mit Saturn und Jupiter (Tafel 20, Mitte unten), so gibt es eine Gegenerde, die ist dann in dem anderen gemeinschaftlichen Raum mit Merkur und Venus. — Daher sprechen diese alten Astronomen von der Erde und der Gegenerde. Selbstverständlich kommt nun der moderne Materialist und sagt: Gegenerde? Ich sehe nichts davon. Er gleicht dem, der einen Menschen abwiegt, dem er erst befohlen hat, nichts zu denken, und ihn dann abwiegt, wenn er ihm befohlen hat, einen besonders gescheiten Gedanken zu denken, und dann sagt: Ich habe gewogen, aber ich habe die Schwere der Gedanken nicht gefunden. - Nicht wahr, der Materialismus lehnt alles ab, was nicht schwer ist oder was nicht gesehen werden kann. Aber es leuchten merkwürdige Dinge aus der Urweisheit, aus der atavistischen Urweisheit der Menschen herauf, auf die wir wiederum aus ganz innerem Schauen, aus innerem Anschauen aus der Geisteswissenschaft kommen. 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