{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 202/1920-12-11/p007","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Thus we have on the one side numerous populations who are regarded by others as retarded, as people who know nothing of the laws of nature and therefore could remain with old religious ideas. Certainly something else has appeared more and more in the last while. This fascinating power of persuasion, I'd like to say, which for the greatest part of mankind had as the scientific ideas in the middle or beginning of the last third of the nineteenth century, this fascinating power of persuasion has gradually decreased. It has diminished with many scientific a mindset and people have become more tolerant towards that which had earlier been regarded as still contained by retarded, uninformed people, and that it must disappear. These latest phenomena are actually only referred back to because of the general sleepiness of the modern soul. Basically it is impossible to have on one side an almighty order of nature and on the other side some kind of real moral spiritual world order. Just as the order of nature was once regarded in recent times, it doesn't tolerate a moral world order and now only when mankind doesn't think efficiently, can one place today's natural observation below that which has come out of old traditional declarations. Consequently it is basically only those people who lived in the middle of the nineteenth century and the fifties and sixties who decidedly pointed out that the human being is a physical bodily being, and out of the physical body as precursor appeared the soul spiritual and that any opposition to this idea should gradually be eradicated. I have also remarked once in an open lecture in Basel and also other places, that there are people who with great intensity have repulsed the idea that one must be entitled to decline from a moral mindset and that basically a criminal has just as much right to run free as those who live according to a moral idea.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"The Bridge Between Morality and Nature","site_heading":null,"date":"1920-12-11","location":null,"word_count":326,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/202/1920-12-11/p007","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Hanna von Maltitz","identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":"The Bridge between Morality and Nature","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA202/English/Singles/19201211p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/202/1920-12-11/p007"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/202/1920-12-11/p007","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Sie hat sogar bei vielen wissenschaftlich Denkenden abgenommen, und man ist duldsamer geworden gegen das, was man früher so aufgefaßt hat, daß es sich eben noch erhält bei den zurückgebliebenen unwissenden Menschen, daß es aber verschwinden müsse. Diese letztere Erscheinung, die ist aber eigentlich nur zurückzuführen auf die allgemeine Schläfrigkeit der modernen Seelen. Denn im Grunde genommen ist es unmöglich, auf der einen Seite die allmächtige Naturordnung zu haben und auf der anderen Seite eine irgendwie reale sittlich-geistige Weltenordnung. So wie die Naturordnung einmal angesehen wird in der neueren Zeit, verträgt sie sich nicht mit einer moralischen Weltordnung, und nur wenn man nicht schlagkräftig denkt, kann man die heutige Naturanschauung irgendwie neben das stellen, was aus alten Traditionen heraus in den verschiedenen Bekenntnissen vorhanden ist. Konsequent sind im Grunde genommen nur diejenigen Menschen gewesen, die etwa um die Mitte des 19. Jahrhunderts, auch in den fünfziger, sechziger Jahren, mit aller Entschiedenheit darauf hingewiesen haben, daß der Mensch ein physisch-leibliches Wesen ist, daß aus den Vorgängen seiner physisch-leiblichen Organisation die Erscheinungen des geistig-seelischen Lebens sich ergeben, und daß man allmählich ausrotten müsse, was dieser Anschauung entgegensteht. Und ich habe ja auch einmal in einem Öffentlichen Vortrag in Basel und an anderen Orten darauf aufmerksam gemacht, daß es Leute gegeben hat, die mit aller Strenge vertreten haben, daß man die Berechtigung einer moralischen Weltanschauung ablehnen müsse und daß im Grunde genommen ein Verbrecher ebenso ein Recht habe, sich auszuleben, wie derjenige, der in sogenannten moralischen Vorstellungen lebt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":338,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/202/1920-12-11/p006"}],"english":["GA 202/1920-12-11/p007"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":338,"en_words":326,"ratio":0.96,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.98,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":4851,"original_word_count":4932,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Hanna von Maltitz","identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":"The Bridge between Morality and Nature","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA202/English/Singles/19201211p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"entity_parity":{"status":"ok","checked_against":["GA 202/1920-12-11/p006"],"missing_from_translation":[],"present_only_in_translation":[],"bead_confidence":"medium","note":"Every load-bearing name in the German counterpart appears in this English passage. 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