{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 202/1920-12-12/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"We will now refer to people who lived during the time of migration in Europe; who emigrated from Europe. These souls were similar to those who had spread Christianity from the south to the north, they were souls who grew into the externalised Christianizing impulse. These souls who accepted Christianity like those living in Europe during the first century—and were quite different to those living with Christianity today—didn't incarnate again into the Central European population. These souls certainly needed longer to return after death into a new birth than did the American Indian souls; it involved souls who had gone through their physical existence earlier than those others who we considered as the last Indian souls, actually the Indian souls during the time of conquest. What the destiny of these earlier Indian souls was, we will not explore now. However, these souls who incarnated in the first Christian century in Europe and who were present in the cultural spread of Christianity from the south to the north, these incarnated now more towards Asia. What I am now describing reveals, particularly clear in these times, how the dreadful catastrophe of the second decade of the twentieth century is so closely stitched into it. In our study of the present earth civilisation now appears something extraordinarily meaningful, for we notice that these souls have incarnated into the Japanese population; that the kind of Christianising a soul had undergone through Europe's Christianizing, who now hear no sound of Christianity from infancy, who only through the subconscious carry a certain nuance of Asian decadence as a result of the then Christianising impulse which they still carry within them, now turn against the present Europe. It is essentially a result of the total decadence of declining oriental wisdom—which at one time was so great, as I have depicted for you—in harmony with the first primitive Christian impulses, how they originated when Christianity in Europe spread from the south to the north under the barbaric populations. This is how it was essentially in the major part of the population. Certainly it complicated things as a result, that this population was thus originated—the souls of the American ancient population like the Central European population both moving eastwards—intermixing into many unique bodies now occupied by souls who had lived during the first Christian centuries more towards the south. These are now right within the populations which originated in this way as I have described to you.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Spiritual Science, History, Reincarnation, Culture, Examples","site_heading":null,"date":"1920-12-12","location":null,"word_count":408,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/202/1920-12-12/p014","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Hanna von Maltitz","identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":"Spiritual Science, History, Reincarnation, Culture, Examples","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA202/English/Singles/19201212p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/202/1920-12-12/p014"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/202/1920-12-12/p014","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Es waren Seelen, die allerdings länger brauchten, um von dem Tode zu einer neuen Geburt zu leben als die amerikanischen Indianerseelen; aber wir haben es ja dafür auch mit Seelen zu tun, die ihr physisches Dasein früher hier durchgemacht haben als jene anderen, die wir als die letzten Indianerseelen, eben die Indianerseelen zur Zeit der Eroberungen, betrachteten. So weit gehen wir dabei zurück. Was das Schicksal der früheren Indianerseelen war, das wollen wir dabei nicht berühren. Diejenigen Seelen aber, die in den ersten christlichen Jahrhunderten in Europa verkörpert waren, die dabei waren, als das Christentum sich kulturell ausgebreitet hat vom Süden nach Norden, die verkörperten sich jetzt mehr nach Asien hinüber. Es zeigt sich das, was ich jetzt beschreibe, besonders deutlich in den Zeiten, in denen die furchtbare Katastrophe des zweiten Jahrzehnts des 20. Jahrhunderts herangenaht ist. Und von ganz besonderer Bedeutung erscheint es der Betrachtungsweise unserer gegenwärtigen Erdenzivilisation, wenn wir sehen, daß namentlich im Japanervolke solche Seelen verkörpert sind; Seelen also, die die besondere Art der Christianisierung in Europa einmal durchgemacht haben, die aber jetzt von Kindheit auf keinen Laut vom Christentum hören, die nur aus dem Unterbewußten heraus eine gewisse Nuancierung des dekadenten Asiatentums durch die damaligen christlichen Impulse in sich tragen, die auch all das heute in sich tragen, was gegen das heutige Europa sich wendet. Es ist ja im wesentlichen ein Ergebnis der ganz in die Dekadenz verfallenen orientalischen Weisheit — die einstmals eine so große war, wie ich es Ihnen geschildert habe - im Zusammenklingen mit den ersten primitiven christlichen Impulsen, wie sie eben entstanden, als in Europa sich das Christentum vom Süden nach dem Norden unter den barbarischen Völkerschaften ausbreitete. So war es im wesentlichen in bezug auf das Gros der Bevölkerung. Allerdings kompliziert sich die Sache dadurch, daß in diese so entstandene Bevölkerung - die Seelen der amerikanischen Urbevölkerung sowie der mitteleuropäischen Bevölkerung zogen beide ostwärts — sich hineinmischten viele einzelne Leiber, die bewohnt wurden von Seelen, die in den ersten christlichen Jahrhunderten mehr südwärts lebten. 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