{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 204/1921-04-16/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Consider for a moment the destiny of the ancient Greek people. It is fraught with a certain tragedy. After its period of great glory, Greek culture pined away and, in essence, vanished from the stage of world history, for what replaced it in that territory cannot be said to have been a true successor. The Greek nation went into decline in a severe, world-historical illness, and from its ancient ideas it produced what, I would say, represents the dawn of all later culture. It brought forth Stoicism and Epicureanism,[^1] systems or views of life in which the more abstract mode of thought, characterizing the later Western civilization, already found an early expression. 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Dieses Schicksal des alten griechischen Volkes hat eine gewisse Tragik in sich. Dieses griechische Volk, nach seiner großen Blüte siecht es dahin; es verschwindet im Grunde genommen doch aus der Weltgeschichte. Denn was in seinem Territorium dann als ein Schatten hingetreten ist, ist ja nicht eine wirkliche Nachkommenschaft. In schwerer weltgeschichtlicher Krankheit siecht das griechische Volk dahin und bringt aus seinen alten Ideen etwas heraus, das, ich möchte sagen, die Morgenröte aller späteren Kultur ist, bringt den Stoizismus, den Epikuräismus aus sich hervor, in denen sich als in bestimmten Lebensanschauungen schon vorausverkündet, was dann in der abendländischen Zivilisation auf viel abstraktere Art gewonnen wird. 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