{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 205/1921-07-08/p016","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Thus we see ourselves, as it were, with our ordinary world of thoughts placed in a general world of thoughts, which is kept apart as if by a boundary, and of which one part is in us and one part is outside us. That which is in us appears to us very clearly as a kind of dream. There always rests at the bottom of our soul a chaotic web of thoughts, we can say, something that is not permeated by logic. But this outer world of thoughts, yes, it cannot be perceived by the ordinary consciousness. So only the real spiritual vision can reveal the nature of this outer world of thoughts from direct observation, from direct experience, and then it enters even more deeply into the regions described in “How to Know Higher Worlds”. But then it also turns out that this world of thoughts, into which we plunge between falling asleep and waking up, is a world of thoughts that is not only as logical as our ordinary world of thoughts is logical, but that contains a much higher logic. If one does not want to misunderstand the expression, I would like to call this world of thoughts a super-logical world of thoughts. I would say that it is just as far above ordinary logic as our dream world, our waking dream world, is below logic.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Eighth Lecture","site_heading":"Cosmic Thought and Human Consciousness: Beyond Logic","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Also aus unmittelbarem Anschauen, aus unmittelbarem Erleben kann die Natur dieser äußeren Gedankenwelt nur enthüllen das wirkliche geistige Schauen, das dann schon tiefer in die Regionen eintritt, die in «Wie erlangt man Erkenntnisse der höheren Welten?» beschrieben werden. Aber dann stellt sich auch heraus: Diese Gedankenwelt, in die wir da eintauchen zwischen dem Einschlafen und Aufwachen, das ist eine Gedankenwelt, die nicht nur so logisch ist, wie unsere gewöhnliche Gedankenwelt logisch ist, sondern die eine viel höhere Logik enthält. Wenn man den Ausdruck nicht mißverstehen will, so möchte ich diese Gedankenwelt eine überlogische Gedankenwelt nennen. Sie ist, ich möchte sagen, ebensoweit über der gewöhnlichen Logik gelegen, wie unsere träumerische Welt, unsere wachende träumerische Welt unter der Logik gelegen ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":203,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/205/1921-07-08/p016"}],"english":["GA 205/1921-07-08/p016"],"method":"identity","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":203,"en_words":229,"ratio":1.13,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5560,"original_word_count":5315,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Humanity, World Soul and World Spirit I","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA205/English/SOL2024/19210708p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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