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Wenn Sie in Ihrem Kämmerchen sitzen, da fällt Ihnen ein: Der Mensch besteht aus physischem Leib, ÄÄtherleib, astralischem Leib, Ich. - Das haben Sie als Ihren innerlichen Besitz. Einmal war es Äußeres. Es ist zum erstenmal, meinetwillen aus einem Buch oder einem Vortrage, also von der Außenwelt heraus an Sie herangekommen, ich habe das schematisch hier aufgezeichnet. Sie tragen aber auch Lunge, Herz, Leber, Gehirn und so weiter in sich, materiell innerlich. Das tragen Sie auch als ein Ergebnis von Erlebnissen in sich. Wenn Sie also einfach schematisch den Menschen aufzeich Tafel4 nen würden mit seinen einzelnen Organen (Tafel 4, links unten), so ist dieses Innere das Ergebnis von alldem - natürlich nicht der physischen Materie, die erst kommt mit der Konzeption, Geburt und so weiter, sondern seiner Form, seinem inneren Organisiertsein nach ist es das Ergebnis dessen, was zwischen dem Tod und neuer Geburt durchlebt wird. So wie Sie hier hören, was ich rede, und das dann Ihr seelisches Erlebnis wird, so wird Ihr Herz, Ihre Lunge, Ihre Leber Ergebnis dessen, was Sie zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt durchleben. Wir können also sagen: Was ich im Inneren körperlich organisiert in mir trage, ist Ergebnis meines Erlebens zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":398,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p030"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"> Was ich im Inneren seelisch mit mir trage,  \n> ist Ergebnis meines Erlebens zwischen Geburt und Tod.\n> Was ich im Inneren körperlich organisiert in mir trage,  \n> ist Ergebnis meines Lebens zwischen Tod und Geburt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":37,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p031"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"Natürlich wird der Materialist einwenden: Das alles, was da als Organe im Menschen ist, ist ja physisch ererbt von den Vorfahren. —Das ist ein vollständiger Irrtum. So ist es nicht. Gewiß, die Materie ist ererbt von den Vorfahren, aber das, was Keim ist, wird ja gewöhnlich ganz falsch angesehen. Es muß auch, wenn man es nur materiell anschaut, falsch angesehen werden. Denn die Befruchtung besteht nicht darin, daß der Mensch materiell von den Generationen heruntergeholt wird, sondern daß gewissermaßen leerer Raum entsteht, daß im Menschen Materie abgebaut wird und das ganze Universum hineinbaut in den Menschen. In diesen Geistbau — Lunge, Herz, Leber sind durchaus Geistbau -, in den schiebt sich dann die Materie hinein. Aber das, was organisierende Kräfte sind, das ist durchaus aus dem ganzen Universum, aus dem Erleben zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt heraus gestaltet. Das ist es eben, was der Mensch in der Weise, wie ich es vorhin geschildert habe, in dem überwachen Bewußtsein erlebt, wenn wir hinaufgehoben werden in die Region der Archangeloi und Archai. Er erlebt bewußt - überbewußt, muß man sagen, zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt das, was er dann in seine Organe hineinbaut.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":191,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p032"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p033","passage_number":33,"text":"Unsere Organe sind durchaus so gebaut, daß sie unserem Karma entsprechen, daß sie dem entsprechen, was wir aus früheren Erdenleben mitbringen. Was also scheinbar in der Generationenfolge als bloße physische Vorgänge sich abspielt, das sind nicht bloße physische Vorgänge, sondern das sind Vorgänge, die durchaus von dem ganzen Universum bewirkt werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":51,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p033"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p034","passage_number":34,"text":"Ich habe ja oftmals schon ein Bild gebraucht, mit dem man sich helfen kann, wenn eben gewöhnliche materialistische Triviallinge kommen und sagen: Erkläre uns nur nicht die Entstehung des Menschen im Leibe der Mutter durch das ganze Universum, führe uns ja nicht ins Universum hinaus; das mußt du eben durch die Kontinuität des Keimplasmas durch die Generationen hindurch erklären. — Ich habe gesagt, man kann sich da so behelfen, daß man sagt: Irgend jemand hat eine Magnetnadel, die weist nach Norden und nach Süden. Nun kommt einer und sagt: Da gibt es verrückte Physiker, die sagen, daß die ganze Erde ein Magnet sei und daß der magnetische Erdsüdpol diesen Pol zu sich hinzieht. Die Gründe, daß die Magnetnadel sich so stellt, die darf man nur in der Magnetnadel selber suchen. Was geht da die Erde diese Magnetnadel an! — So ungefähr aber sprechen heute unsere Biologen, wenn sie von dem Keim sprechen. Sie schauen nur auf den Keim hin. Geradeso wie aber in der Magnetnadel die ganze Erde tätig ist, so ist das ganze Universum beim Gestalten des Keimes tätig. Nur liegt natürlich der Anteil, den der Mensch daran hat, zurück im Unbewußten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":193,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p034"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p035","passage_number":35,"text":"Sie sehen, der Mensch wird, wenn man die Sache so betrachtet, mit seinem ganzen Dasein an ein materielles und an ein geistiges Universum angeknüpft. Wir sagen uns: Im Erkennen, im gewöhnlichen bewußten Erleben machen wir die Außenwelt zu einer Innenwelt. Von einem gewissen Gesichtspunkte aus habe ich Ihnen gestern gesagt: Wenn der Mensch durch die Pforte des Todes geht, so wird das Innere Äußeres, das Äußere wird Inneres. Nun habe ich Ihnen heute einen anderen Gesichtspunkt vorgebracht, aus dem Sie ersehen können, wie das, was vor der Geburt beziehungsweise vor der Konzeption liegt, so zu behandeln ist, daß wir unser körperliches Inneres in der Außenwelt suchen müssen, in seinen vorbereitenden Prozessen in dem Leben zwischen dem Tod und einer neuen Geburt: Das Äußere wird Inneres. Das, was wir gewissermaßen in Ausbreitung im ganzen Universum erleben, das wird tief unbewußtes Erlebnis in unseren Organen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":143,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p035"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p036","passage_number":36,"text":"Diese Organe in uns sind ja in der Tat so, daß in ihnen eine ganze Welt lebt. Und wenn wir einzig und allein das betrachten, was die äußere Anatomie und Physiologie gibt von unseren inneren Organen, so haben wir da eigentlich eine viel stärkere Maja vor uns, als wir in der äußeren Welt vor uns haben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":56,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p036"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p037","passage_number":37,"text":"Wenn wir in die Sinneswelt hinausblicken, sagte ich Ihnen, blicken wir bis zu den Elohim hin. Wenn wir aber jetzt in unser körperliches Innere hinunterschauen, da müssen wir für das, was nun in uns so lebt, daß es unsere Organe bildet, weiter hinaufsteigen. Sie wissen ja, Sie finden in meiner «Geheimwissenschaft» über den Geistern der Form andere Wesenheiten. Und diese anderen Wesenheiten, die sind nun nicht etwa bloß außerhalb des Menschen, sondern sie wirken im Menschen. Von ihnen erfahren wir zwischen dem 'Tod und einer neuen Geburt, indem wir uns allerdings mit dem eigenen Bewußtsein nur hinaufleben bis zu den Archai, aber wir erfahren da durch die Archai von diesen Wesenheiten. Und in diesem Überbewußtsein erfahren wir von ihnen das, was wir dann in unsere Organisation hineingießen. Wir tragen tatsächlich die Welt der Hierarchien in unserer inneren Gestaltung mit durch das Leben.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":142,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p037"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-22_02/p038","passage_number":38,"text":"Solche Dinge kann man heute wieder erforschen. Solche Dinge hat man aus einem gewissen instinktiv hellseherischen Bewußtsein in alten Zeiten gewußt, in jenen Zeiten, in denen man davon gesprochen hat, daß der menschliche Organismus ein Tempel der Götter ist, in solchen Zeiten, in denen man gerade innerhalb des menschlichen Mikrokosmos durch die Deutung dieses Mikrokosmos versucht hat, sich Erkenntnis zu verschaffen von der ganzen Welt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":65,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-22_02/p038"}],"beads":[{"from":[29,30,31],"to":[30],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[32],"to":[31],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[33],"to":[32],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[34],"to":[33],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[35],"to":[34],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[36],"to":[35],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[37],"to":[36],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[38],"to":[37,38],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. 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