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They would say: The wisdom simply exists; it comes to me and radiates into me. Plato found himself in a form of dialogue with the entity that brought wisdom into him. Experiencing this wisdom in dialogue he also preferred to express it through dialogue.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Luciferic and Ahrimanic Forces in Human Evolution","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1921-10-23","location":null,"word_count":183,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/208/1921-10-23/p011","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Anna R. 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Daher die Platonischen Schriften in einer so wunderbaren Weise höchste Weisheit verbinden mit dem, was doch schon im Elemente des Menschlich-Persönlichen lebt. Und man kann sich, wenn man die ganze Seelenverfassung Platos ins Auge faßt, gar nicht denken, daß er in einer anderen Form als in der Dialogform seine Weisheitsbücher abgefaßt haben könnte, aus dem einfachen Grunde, weil er deutlich spürte, was der ältere Mensch unbestimmt empfand. Der ältere Mensch sagte sich: Die Weisheit ist einfach da, sie erfaßt mich, sie strahlt in mich herein. Plato fand sich selbst in einer Art von Wechselgespräch mit dem Wesen, das in ihn herein die Weisheit brachte. 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