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Human beings have become individuals, but these angelic spirits do not want human actions to flow out into life and activity, into a manifestation of human will impulses. They want to keep people in an introspective frame of mind, to look rather than take action, to be mystics and follow the wrong kind of theosophy. They like people to sit musing all day, pursuing a thread through all kinds of riddles of the world and unwilling to apply the things they have in mind to the real world outside. They want detached observation to lead to a science of the outside world. They are good at creating a science like the one of Father Secchi,[^9] who was an excellent astrophysicist, being able to make observations using the microscope and telescope and record them, and who also had something that did not relate to this at all, a sublime wisdom greater than the wisdom of this earth and of the human mind that had been given to him by luciferic spirits. 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The ahrimanic spirits want to keep human beings very much to life on earth. They want to mechanize everything, that is, take it down to the level of the mineral world. If they succeeded they would reshape the world to suit themselves and prevent it from reaching the Jupiter stage. On the other hand they do not want to deprive people of the opportunity to act; on the contrary, they want them to be as active as possible, except that it should all be routine and according to programme. Ahriman is a real programme enthusiast. It is he who inspires people to have endless statutes. He is really in his element if he finds a committee busily engaged in setting up statutes: Paragraph one, two and three—in the first place this is to be done, in the second place something else, in the third place one member has those particular rights, and in the fourth place another member is to do one thing or another. 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Man könnte sagen, die luziferischen Wesen sind Zorneswesen, die den Menschen beseelen, aber um ihn eigentlich auf der Erde nicht froh werden zu lassen und ihn immer von der Erde wegzuziehen, um ihn gewissermaßen immerfort ins Übermenschliche hinaufzuziehen. Sie möchten ihn viel mehr als einen Engel haben, der nicht in die niederen Funktionen des physischen Organismus verfällt. Die luziferischen Wesen haben einen argen Zorn auf den auf zwei Beinen auf der Erde herumgehenden Menschen, der mit der Erde durch seine niederen Funktionen verbunden ist; alles Tierischen möchten diese Wesenheiten den Menschen entkleiden, und sie möchten ihn zum Beispiel jetzt in dieser Epoche seines Daseins nicht gern wiederum herunterlassen zur physischen Verkörperung, sie möchten ihn oben erhalten in dem Leben, das zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt verfließt. Dagegen möchte man die anderen, die ahrimanischen Wesenheiten, Schmerzenswesen nennen. Denn eigentlich streben sie nach der menschlichen Gestaltung hin, können sie aber für sich nicht erreichen. Es ist ein furchtbarer Schmerz, den im Grunde genommen diese ahrimanischen Wesen durchmachen. Es ist so, wie wenn das Tier in sich dunkel fühlen würde: Du solltest dich aufrichten, du solltest ein Mensch sein — wie wenn es alles in sich zerreißen möchte. Diesen furchtbaren Schmerz, ihn fühlen eigentlich die ahrimanischen Wesen. Und er kann ihnen nur gelindert werden, wenn sie herankommen an den Menschen und den Verstand erfassen. Da kühlt der Verstand diesen Schmerz ab. Daher verbeißen sie sich in den menschlichen Verstand, krallen sich gewissermaßen mit ihrem ganzen Wesen in ihn ein, knochen sich ein. Das ahrimanische Wesen hat so etwas wie das sich schmerzvolle Durchdringen mit dem menschlichen Verstand. Es möchte sich das ahrimanische Wesen mit dem Menschen vereinen, um zu Verstand zu kommen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":308,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p025"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p026","passage_number":26,"text":"Es ist also der Mensch der Kampfplatz zwischen dem Luziferischen und dem Ahrimanischen. Es ist so, daß man sagen kann: Das Luziferische hat die Hand im Spiele bei allem Künstlerischen, bei allem Abstrakt-Theologischen. Das Ahrimanische, das ist etwas wie aus der materiellen Welt Heraufkommendes, durch das Tierreich Durchgegangenes, das schmerzvoll hinstrebt nach dem Menschen, das den Verstand ergreifen will, das aber zurückgestoßen wird im Menschen von dem übermenschlichen Wesen, das immer zurückprallt, aber sich mitnehmen möchte den Verstand. Es ist etwas, was immer wieder und wieder in den Menschen herein will und den Menschen halten möchte beim bloßen Verstande, ihn nicht hinaufkommen lassen möchte bis zur Imagination, Inspiration, weil es das Menschenwesen zur Linderung seiner Qual bei sich behalten möchte.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":120,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p026"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p027","passage_number":27,"text":"Alles das, was in der Menschheit sich seit der neueren ahrimanischen Zeit gebildet hat, vorzugsweise als materialistische Wissenschaft, als Wissenschaft, die von diesem sich im Menschen abkühlenden Schmerz des materiellen Daseins kommt, das ist ahrimanischer Natur. Und wir sehen die materialistische Wissenschaft heraufkommen. Der Mensch bildet sie aus. Indem der Mensch sie in sich hegt, verbindet sich Ahriman in ihm mit seiner Wissenschaft. Und so wie insbesondere Luzifer seine Hand im Spiele hat bei dem Künstlerischen, so hat Ahriman seine Hand im Spiele bei dem Ausbilden des Mechanischen, Technischen, dessen, was den Verstand wegziehen möchte vom Menschen, was ihn in die Maschine, sei es in das mechanische Werkzeug, sei es in die Maschinerie des Staatswesens hineinziehen möchte. Nur dadurch ist im wesentlichen möglich geworden, was da in der neueren Menschheit lebt, was da heraufgezogen ist insbesondere seit der Renaissancezeit. Man möchte sagen: Während der Renaissancezeit ist das luziferische Wirken in eine Art von Sackgasse gekommen; das ahrimanische Wirken, das hat sich jenseits der Wand dieser Sackgasse dann angesetzt. Und wir sehen das ganze Treiben, welches seit der Renaissancezeit da ist; das Hintreiben nach Mechanismus, nach geistloser Wissenschaft, sehen wir mit dem ahrimanischen Charakter ablaufen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":194,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p027"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Das einzige nun, was möglich ist hineinzubringen in das, was seit der Renaissancezeit heraufgezogen ist, ist die Christus-Auffassung. Was in der neueren Zeit als materialistische Wissenschaft, als industrielle Technik heraufgezogen ist, ist durchaus ahrimanischer Natur, würde, wenn es sich verbreiten könnte ohne Christus-Auffassung, den Menschen an die Erde fesseln. Der Mensch würde nicht hinaufkommen zum Jupiterdasein. Bringen wir aber die Christus- Auffassung, bringen wir ein neues geistiges Leben, bringen wir neuerdings Imagination, Inspiration, Intuition in dasjenige, was nur Erkenntnis der äußeren Welt ist, dann erlösen wir das ahrimanische Wesen. Wie diese Erlösung bildhaft vorgestellt werden kann, ich habe es ja in meinen Mysteriendramen von den mannigfaltigsten Seiten aus dargestellt. Aber es würde ein Überwinden des Menschen durch Ahriman sein, wenn die Christus-Auffassung nicht als eine wirklich durchgeistigte Auffassung, enttheologisiert, sich weiter gestalten könnte. Die materialistische Wissenschaft, der äußere industrielle Mechanismus würden den Menschen dem Erdentod überliefern, das heißt, eine ganz andere Welt zimmern, in der der Mensch mehr oder weniger wie ein Petrifikat fortleben würde zur Erbauung der ahrimanischen Wesenheiten, wenn nicht die Christus-Auffassung das moderne materialistische, das moderne mechanische Wesen wiederum in geistiger Art durchziehen würde.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":187,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p028"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p029","passage_number":29,"text":"Wir können also sagen: Luzifer hat seine Hand im Spiele bei allem traditionell Theologischen, bei allem ins Manierhafte, Steife ausartenden Künstlerischen, bei allem Renaissanceartigen; während Ahriman seine Hand im Spiele hat bei allem, was nur äußerliche geistlose Naturwissenschaft ist, die in der Natur nicht den Geist entdecken kann, und bei allem, was äußerlicher Mechanismus im menschlichen Tun ist. Die luziferischen Engelwesen, die sich aus dem traditionellen Leben durchaus auch jetzt noch gerettet haben bis in die Gegenwart, sie haben alles Interesse daran, den Menschen eigentlich abzuhalten vom Tun. Sie möchten den Menschen wenigstens beim inneren Seelenleben erhalten. Der Mensch ist eine Persönlichkeit geworden. Aber diese Engelwesen möchten den Menschen nicht ausströmen lassen in seinen Taten in das Erlebnis, in die Offenbarung seiner Willensimpulse. Sie möchten ihn in innerlicher Beschaulichkeit erhalten. Sie verführen ihn zur Mystik, sie verführen ihn zur falschen Theosophie. Sie verführen ihn dazu, ein bloß innerliches beschauliches Leben zu führen, zu betrachten, statt zu handeln. Sie machen ihn zu einem Sinnierer, der am liebsten den ganzen Tag sitzen möchte und spinnen möchte über allerlei Welträtselfragen, der aber das, was in seinem Geiste lebt, nicht übertragen möchte in die äußere Wirklichkeit. Sie möchten durch rein äußere Beobachtung entstehen lassen, was äußere Wissenschaft ist. Sie lassen gut entstehen solch eine Wissenschaft wie die des Paters Secch:, der ein ausgezeichneter Astrophysiker war, deshalb, weil er beobachten konnte mit Mikroskop und Teleskop, weil er das verzeichnen konnte, und nur daneben etwas hatte, was damit gar nicht zusammenhing: das, was ihm eingegeben war von luziferischen Wesen als eine hohe überirdisch-übermenschliche Weisheit. Indem die luziferischen Wesen diese übermenschlich-überirdische Weisheit pflegen, entreißen sie das Seelisch-Geistige des Menschen dem Erdendasein. Dann verfällt einfach das, was noch so hohe äußere materialistische Wissenschaft ist; das verfällt, das hat keinen inneren Bestand. Es ist ja nicht von realer Geistigkeit durchzogen. Das interessiert sie nicht weiter.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":306,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p029"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p030","passage_number":30,"text":"Ebenso möchten diese luziferischen Wesenheiten die Kunst möglichst lebenslos, geistlos in dem Sinne haben, daß in die Form nicht Geist einzieht. Sie möchten immer nur Renaissance haben, das, was in alten Zeiten gelebt hat. Sie geben dem Menschen einen Haß ein gegen jede neue Stilform, die aus dem modernen Menschlichen wirklich hervorgehen kann. Sie möchten die alten Stilformen fortpflanzen, weil diese alten Stilformen noch dem Unirdischen, Überirdischen entlehnt sind.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":69,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p030"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Das ahrimanische Wesen wiederum möchte es überhaupt nicht zur Vergeistigung, nicht zum Stil kommen lassen, möchte am liebsten nur ganz prosaische Bauten, Nützlichkeitsbauten zum Beispiel aufführen, möchte alles mechanisieren, alles nur in den Dienst des Industriellen stellen, möchte dem Menschen eingeben, nicht zu schätzen noch irgendeine Handarbeit als Kunstgewerbe, sondern möchte nur Modelle liefern, die dann maschinell in unendlichen Exemplaren nachgebildet werden so, wie sich Ahriman selbst in einer unermeßlich großen Zahl von Exemplaren durch das Geheimnis der Zahl in vielen Menschen offenbaren kann.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":84,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p031"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"Der Mensch steht eigentlich in der Gegenwart ganz in diesem Kampfe drinnen. Nur wenn er sich wirklich besinnt auf das, was ihm die echte Christus-Gabe sein kann: eine der heutigen Zeit angemessene anthroposophische Geist-Erkenntnis und Geistesanschauung, wenn er sich darauf besinnt, findet er den Weg durch Innehalten der Gleichgewichtslage zwischen dem Luziferischen und dem Ahrimanischen. Er muß sozusagen mit dem Ahrimanischen kämpfen, denn er würde ja sonst dem Luziferischen verfallen müssen. Er darf aber nicht, ohne wachsam zu sein, sich den Strömen Ahrimans hingeben, denn dadurch würde er in eine vollständig mechanische Weltenordnung hineinfallen. Die luziferischen Wesen möchten den Menschen von jeglichem Tun abhalten, ihn zum Sinnierer, zum Mystiker machen, der nach und nach nichts mehr übrig hat für das Erdendasein und deshalb auch dem Erdendasein entzogen werden kann. Die ahrimanischen Wesenheiten möchten den Menschen ganz beim Erdendasein erhalten. Daher möchten sie alles mechanisieren, das heißt, hinunterdrücken ins Mineralreich. 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Während Luzifer das Bestreben hat, den Menschen mit dem Kopf denken zu machen und in den Kopf das Herz zu gießen, ist Ahriman bestrebt, den Menschen nur mit den Beinen denken zu machen, alles in die Beine hineinzugießen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":99,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/208/1921-10-23/p033"},{"locus":"GA 208/1921-10-23/p034","passage_number":34,"text":"In diesem Kampfe steht der Mensch schon drinnen; und das, was ich vielleicht in einer mehr bildhaften Form ausspreche, das ist schon im Grunde genommen Inhalt unserer Kultur. Da sehen wir auf der einen Seite diejenigen Menschen, die es als ihr Ideal ansehen, mit untergelegten Beinen wie eine Buddha-Statue sich zum Allerhöchsten sinnierend erheben zu können, in vollständiger Beinlosigkeit, mit einem Aufschwellen des Kopfes in die mystischen Abgründe sich hineinvertiefend. 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