{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 224/1923-05-23/p013","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Then came the Atlantean catastrophe. Among all post-Atlanteans there was next developed a preference for a *sequence of fifths*. You probably know that for a long time thereafter fifths played a most comprehensive role in musical development; for example, in ancient Greece, fifths played a quite extensive role. And this preference for a sequence of fifths had the peculiarity of affecting people in such a way that, when they experienced music, they now no longer felt drawn out of their bodies, to be sure, but they felt themselves to be *soul and spirit within* their bodies. During the musical experience they completely forgot physical experience; they felt that they were inside their skin, so to speak, but their skin was entirely filled with soul and spirit. That was the effect of the music, and very few people will believe that almost up to the tenth and eleventh Christian century the natural music was as I have described it. For not until then did the aptitude for *thirds* appear, the aptitude for the *major* and the *minor* third, and everything of the nature of *major* and *minor*. That came relatively late. But with this late development there was evolved at the same time the inner experience of music. Man now remained *within himself* in musical experience. Just as the rest of the culture at this time tended downward from the spiritual to the material, so in the musical sphere the tendency was downward, from the experience of the spiritual into which he passed in ancient times when he experienced music at all, to the experience of music *within himself*—no longer as far outward as to the skin, but entirely within himself. In this way there first appeared also at that time the major and minor moods, which are actually possible only when music is *inwardly* experienced.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Pneumatosophy: The Riddles of the Inner Man","site_heading":null,"date":"1923-05-23","location":null,"word_count":305,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/224/1923-05-23/p013","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length+anchor_constrained","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Frances E. 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Sie wissen ja wahrscheinlich, daß die Quinte noch lange Zeit in der musikalischen Entwickelung die ausgedehnteste Rolle spielte; noch im alten Griechenland zum Beispiel spielte die Quinte eine ganz ausgebreitete Rolle. Die Vorliebe für Quintenfolgen hatte die Eigentümlichkeit zur Folge, daß zwar die Menschen, indem sie musikalisch erlebten, sich allerdings jetzt nicht mehr außerhalb ihres Leibes fühlten, aber in ihrem Leibe sich seelisch-geistig fühlten. Sie vergaßen völlig während des musikalischen Erlebens das physische Erleben. Sie fühlten sich zwar sozusagen innerhalb ihrer Haut, aber ihre Haut ganz ausgefüllt mit Seele und Geist. Das war die Wirkung der Musik, und die wenigsten Menschen werden es glauben, daß fast noch bis zum 10., 11. nachchristlichen Jahrhundert die naturgemäße Musik so wat, wie ich es beschrieb, denn dann erst traten die Begabungen der Menschen für Terzen ein, die große und die kleine Terz, und für das Dur- und Mollmäßige. Das ist verhältnismäßig spät gekommen, aber mit diesem Spätkommen gestaltete sich zugleich das innerliche Erleben des Musikalischen heraus. Der Mensch blieb jetzt bei sich im Musikalischen. So wie die übrige Kultur in dieser Zeit von dem Geistigen herunterstrebte zum Materiellen, so strebte der Mensch im Musikalischen von dem Erleben des Geistigen, in das er aufging in den alten Zeiten, wenn er überhaupt Musik erlebte, hin zu dem Erleben des Musikalischen in sich, nicht mehr bis zur Haut, sondern ganz in sich. 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