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I do not undervalue the wonderfully varied multiplicity and the grandeur of the dream; but we must nevertheless recognize that the dream, compared with the earth life, in whose images it is clothed, is *chaotic*. You need only to recall that dream which I have mentioned before as an illustration (Volkelt told this dream, according to a report from Württemberg, but we know of such, do we not?). A city lady visited her sister, who was the wife of a country parson, and she dreamed that she went with her sister to church to hear a sermon; but everything was quite peculiar; for, after the Gospel was read and the pastor went up to the pulpit, he did not begin to preach, but instead of raising his arms, he lifted wings, and finally began to .crow like a cock! Or recall another dream in which a lady said she had just dreamed of considering what good thing she should cook for her husband, and nothing at all occurred to her until finally the thought came to her that she still had an old pickled grandmother upstairs in the attic, but she would be very tough yet.—You see a dream can be as chaotic as that—strangely chaotic. But just what does it mean that the dream acts so chaotically? 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That is because, with regard to what we have already formed in our sleep, we do not understand the adaptation to the human physical body. This adaptation to the human physical body is exceedingly difficult; and we acquire it in that working together, which I have described, with the Beings of the Higher Hierarchies between death and a new birth. There the soul-spiritual self must first readjust what otherwise in the dream so often enters so awkwardly, when the sleep consciousness is again fully overcome, and the person without his own cooperation has plunged again into his old physical body. This soul-spiritual self, between death and a new birth, must penetrate all the mysteries of the physical body, in order that the body may be built up in the right way. For the body is really not formed by the parents and grandparents alone. To believe that is one of the perfect follies of science. (We are justified in making such a statement!) For how does science approximately set forth this human development? Well, it says that as the basis of material substance we have molecules, which are built up in a complicated way from atoms. The albumen molecule, which is contained in the embryo-cell, is the most complicated of all, and because it is so complicated (naturally no scientist can describe it, but he points to its exceeding complexity) because it is so complicated, a human being can originate from it. That is the simplest sort of explanation of the human being! It is simply asserted that the entire human being is already contained in the molecule; it is merely a very complicated molecule.—The *truth* is, however, that the albumen molecule must completely revert to chaos, must become dust of disorganized matter, if a human being is to originate from it. We have in the outer world organized matter in crystals, in plants, and so on: if anything is to originate, even a plant, or an animal, then the matter must first completely return to dust. And only when it no longer has a definite form does the *entire cosmos* work upon the tiny bit of stuff, making in it an *image* of itself. How is it, then, with the human being? Between death and a new birth, we form this human image, with all its mysteries, into which we weave our karma, and we send this image down before us into the body of the mother. So we have first formed the spirit germ—only, this is very large in comparison with the physical germ—and this descends into the matter which has become chaotic. 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Ich verkenne nicht die wunderbar bunte Mannigfaltigkeit und das Großartige des Traumes, aber wir müssen uns doch darüber klar sein, daß der Traum gegenüber dem Erdenleben, in dessen Bilder er sich kleidet, chaotisch ist. Sie brauchen sich ja nur an jenen Traum zu erinnern, den ich früher einmal zur Illustration angeführt habe — Vo/kelt erzählt diesen Traum nach einer württembergischen Erzählung, aber solche \"Träume kennen wir ja -, wo eine Stadtfrau ihre Schwester, die die Frau eines Pfarrers ist, auf dem Lande besucht. Sie träumt, daß sie mit ihrer Schwester zusammen in die Kirche zur Predigt geht. Aber es ist ihr da ganz sonderbar, denn, nachdem das Evangelium gelesen ist und der Pastor auf die Kanzel steigt, da fängt er nicht an zu predigen, sondern da hebt er statt der Arme die Flügel und fängt schließlich an zu krähen wie ein Hahn! — Oder denken Sie an einen andern Traum, wo eine Frau sagt, sie habe eben geträumt, wie sie darüber nachgedacht habe, was sie Gutes ihrem Manne kochen solle, und da sei ihr gar nichts anderes eingefallen, bis ihr zuletzt der Gedanke gekommen sei, daß sie noch eine alte gesalzene Großmutter oben auf dem Boden habe, aber die sei noch sehr zähe. — So chaotisch kann der Traum wirken, merkwürdig chaotisch. Aber was heißt denn das: der Traum wirkt so chaotisch? Was heißt das eigentlich?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":272,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/224/1923-05-23/p022"},{"locus":"GA 224/1923-05-23/p023","passage_number":23,"text":"Während wir schlafen, sind wir mit unserem Ich und astralischen Leib außerhalb des physischen Leibes und des Ätherleibes. Aber da leben wir zurück — namentlich mit der moralischen Bedeutung - alles das, was wir bei Tage getan, gesprochen und gedacht haben. Das leben wir zurück. Wir bereiten uns unser Karma für das nächste Erdenleben vor, und das erscheint in Bildern schon zwischen dem Einschlafen und dem Aufwachen. Aber diese Bilder sind noch sehr ungeschickt, denn wenn wir dann beim Aufwachen in den physischen Leib wieder hinein wollen, dann paßt das noch nicht recht hinein. Wir können nicht makrokosmosgemäß vorstellen. Wir stellen statt dessen etwas ganz anderes vor, vielleicht eine «gesalzene Großmutter». Das ist, weil wir mit Bezug auf das, was wir schon ausgebildet haben, nicht die Anpassung an den physischen Menschenleib verstehen, und diese Anpassung an den physischen Menschenleib ist unendlich schwierig. Wir eignen sie uns an in jener Zusammenarbeit, die ich geschildert habe, mit den Wesen der höheren Hierarchien zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt. Da muß das innere Seelisch-Geistige, das sonst im Traum oftmals so ungeschickt hineinsteigt, dies erst wieder ausgleichen, wenn das ganze Schlafbewußtsein wiederum überwunden ist und der Mensch ohne sein Zutun in seinen alten physischen Leib wieder untergetaucht ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":203,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/224/1923-05-23/p023"},{"locus":"GA 224/1923-05-23/p024","passage_number":24,"text":"Dieses Seelisch-Geistige muß zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt alle Geheimnisse des Leiblichen durchschauen, damit der Leib in einer richtigen Weise aufgebaut werden kann. Denn der Leib wird ja wirklich nicht von den Eltern und Voreltern allein aufgebaut. Das zu glauben, ist ein richtiger Unsinn der Wissenschaft - man darf schon dieses Wort aussprechen. Denn wie stellt sich die Wissenschaft ungefähr dieses Menschwerden vor? Nun, sie sagt: Wir haben unter den Stoffen Moleküle, die sind in einer komplizierten Weise aus Atomen aufgebaut. Das Eiweißmolekül, das in der Keimzelle enthalten ist, ist das allerkomplizierteste Molekül — natürlich kann das kein Wissenschafter beschreiben, aber er weist auf die ungeheure Kompliziertheit hin —, und weil es so kompliziert ist, kann ein Mensch daraus entstehen. - Es ist die einfachste Art von Menschenerklärung. Man sagt eben: Der ganze Mensch steckt da schon drinnen, es ist nur ein so kompliziert aufgebautes Molekül. -— Die Wahrheit ist aber, daß nur dadurch ein Mensch entstehen kann, daß das Eiweißmolekül ganz ins Chaos zurückfallen muß, Staub werden muß aus ungeordneter Materie. Wir haben draußen geordnete Materie, in Kristallen, in Pflanzen und so weiter. Wenn etwas entstehen soll, auch die Pflanze, auch das Tier, so muß erst die Materie völlig in Staub zurückfallen. Und wenn erst die Materie nicht mehr eine Form in sich bestimmt hat, dann wirkt der ganze Kosmos auf das.kleine Stückchen Materie, macht sich in ihm ein Bild.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":231,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/224/1923-05-23/p024"},{"locus":"GA 224/1923-05-23/p025","passage_number":25,"text":"Wie ist es also mit dem Menschen? Wir formen dieses Menschenbild zwischen Tod und neuer Geburt mit allen Geheimnissen, in die wir nun hineinweben unser Karma, schicken es herunter vor uns in den Leib der Mutter; wir haben den Geistkeim, der nur groß ist im Verhältnis zum physischen Keim, also erst ausgebildet, und der senkt sich in die chaotisch gewordene Materie hinein. Das ist die Wahrheit, nicht dasjenige, wovon die heutige Physiologie träumt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":73,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/224/1923-05-23/p025"}],"beads":[{"from":[24],"to":[22],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[25],"to":[23,24,25],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}