{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 224/1923-06-21/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Therefore, those who have insight into these things can confirm stories such as the following: Once there were two university students. One was a philologist and knew nothing about arithmetic—I must add—knew nothing at all about arithmetic. The other was a mathematics student. Now, we all know from experience that when it comes to certain parts of mathematics, you have to sweat a little over the problems. Philology is usually easier. And so it was with these two students who, as is often the case with students, shared a room and also slept together, so that when they had finished preparing for their exams one evening, the philology student was very pleased with himself, but the mathematics student was not at all, because he could not solve a problem that he was supposed to solve for a written assignment. He went to bed feeling extremely dissatisfied, and a strange thing happened: at a certain hour, the philology student woke up and saw the math student get up, go to his desk, and continue brooding, writing for a long time, and then go back to bed and sleep. The next day, when both got up, the math student said, “We didn't skip class yesterday, did we? I have a terrible hangover today.” The other replied, “That's no surprise. If you get up at three in the morning and spend hours doing math, you're going to have a foggy head the next morning.” The first student said, “I didn't get up!” He knew absolutely nothing about getting up. Now they looked, and lo and behold, he had solved his problem, but he knew nothing about it. Such things are by no means mere fairy tales. I have chosen an example from literature so that it can be verified. I could tell you many similar stories. I am not concerned with this individual case, but rather with the fact that this is indeed a reality: when consciousness is not present—and I emphasize that the person concerned knew nothing about it—the physical body and etheric body are, in a sense, acted upon by external impulses, and the etheric body works alone in the physical body to continue the task.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Our Thought Life in Sleep and Wakefulness and in the Afterlife","site_heading":null,"date":"1923-06-21","location":null,"word_count":365,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/224/1923-06-21/p008","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Human Soul in its Connection with Divine-Spiritual Individualities","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA224/English/SOL2024/19230621p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Und so war es denn bei diesen zwei Studenten, die, wie das bei Studenten schon vorkommt, das Zimmer teilten, auch zusammen schliefen, so, daß, als sie eines Abends mit ihren Vorbereitungen zum Examen zu Ende waren, der Philologiestudent sehr selbstzufrieden war, der Mathematikstudent hingegen gar nicht, weil er ein Problem, das er für eine schriftliche Aufgabe hätte lösen sollen, nicht lösen konnte. Er legte sich höchst unbefriedigt zu Bett, und es stellte sich die merkwürdige Tatsache heraus: Zu einer bestimmten Stunde wird der Philologiestudent aufgeweckt, er sieht, wie der Mathematikstudent aufsteht, zum Schreibtisch hingeht und weiterbrütet, auch schreibt, längere Zeit schreibt, und dann sich wieder ins Bett legt und schläft. Am nächsten Tage, als beide aufstanden, sagte der Mathematikstudent: Wir haben doch gestern gar nicht gekneipt, ich habe heute einen furchtbaren Kater. - Da sagte der andere: Das ist auch gar nicht zu verwundern, wenn du um drei Uhr nachts aufstehst und stundenlang rechnest, daß du dann einen wirren Kopf hast am nächsten Morgen. — Da sagte der erste: Ich bin nicht aufgestanden! - Er wußte absolut nichts davon, daß er aufgestanden wäre. Nun schauten sie nach, und siehe da, er hatte seine Aufgabe gelöst, er wußte aber gar nichts davon. Solche Dinge sind durchaus nicht bloße Märchen. Ich wähle ein Beispiel, das der Literatur angehört, aus dem Grunde, damit es nachkontrolliert werden kann. Ich könnte Ihnen viele ähnliche Dinge ja erzählen. Es kommt mir gar nicht auf diesen einzelnen Fall an, es kommt mir vielmehr darauf an, daß dies tatsächlich eine Realität ist: wenn das Bewußtsein nicht vorhanden ist - ich sage ausdrücklich, der Betreffende wußte nichts davon -, werden der physische Leib und Ätherleib gewissermaßen durch Püffe von außen bearbeitet, und der Ätherleib arbeitet im physischen Leib allein an der Fortsetzung der Aufgabe.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":374,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/224/1923-06-21/p008"}],"english":["GA 224/1923-06-21/p008"],"method":"identity","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":374,"en_words":365,"ratio":0.98,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7128,"original_word_count":6805,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"The Human Soul in its Connection with Divine-Spiritual Individualities","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA224/English/SOL2024/19230621p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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