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Whereas the circling of the Moon takes about a third of his earthly lifetime, the next rounds, the circling of Mars, of Jupiter, and of Saturn—I mentioned yesterday how these rounds are not completed—takes a more leisurely course, twelve times slower than the circling of the Moon.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":91,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/227/1923-08-29/p015","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1923-08-29","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 227/1923-08-29/p016","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/227/1923-08-29/p016"},{"locus":"GA 227/1923-08-29/p017","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/227/1923-08-29/p017"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":94,"en_words":91,"ratio":0.97,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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We must start from the original plan decreed for human beings by the Cosmos. Then we find that a man goes through the Moon period in a third of the time he has spent on Earth. If we allow for the fact that at the beginning of life more time is spent in sleep, and add on the time given to sleep in later life, we find that a man needs approximately thirty years to accomplish the first cycle, that of the Moon. Each of the following cycles takes twelve times as long, or 36o years for each cycle. If we follow a man in his further journeying through the worlds, we find him going through three cycles. He does not reach Saturn, but has to go through the cycles in the way originally decided. He then has to go backwards through the three again. Thus he completes three cycles in an outward direction and, on returning towards his next earthly life, another three backwards, making six in all. We then have the time originally intended for man. 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Wir müssen eigentlich ausgehen von dem, was ursprünglich dem Menschen vorgesetzt war, wozu er ursprünglich durch die Ratschlüsse des Kosmos bestimmt war. Und da können wir annehmen, daß der Mensch die Mondenzeit in einem Drittel der Erdenzeit durchläuft. Nehmen wir die längeren Schlafzeiten der ersten Kindheit und die späteren Schlafzeiten des Menschen während der Erdenzeit zusammen, so bekommen wir ungefähr dreißig Jahre - approximativ als Mittel -, die der Mensch braucht, um den ersten Zyklus, den Mondenzyklus, zu durchlaufen. Jeder der folgenden Zyklen wird so durchlaufen, daß die Zeit eine zwölfmal längere wird, und wir bekommen 360 Jahre für jeden Zyklus. Wir bekommen dann, wenn wir den Menschen weiter auf seiner Weltenwanderung verfolgen, drei Zyklen, die er durchgemacht hat. Er kommt nicht bis zum Saturn, aber die Zyklen sollte er durchmachen nach seiner ursprünglichen Bestimmung. So daß wir sagen können: Der Mensch durchläuft den ersten Zyklus, zweiten Zyklus, dritten Zyklus, muß dann wiederum zurückgehen durch die drei Zyklen, so daß er also dreimal den Umkreis hin, und bei seiner Rückwärtswanderung zum nächsten Erdendasein dreimal den Umkreis zurück durchmacht. Das gibt sechs Zyklen. Und wir bekommen dann als - diejenige Zeit, die dem Menschen eigentlich vorgesetzt war - ich werde noch zu erwähnen haben, daß er sie nicht immer so absolviert, daß die Dinge für den heutigen Menschen noch ganz anders liegen -, als dasjenige, was dem Menschen durch den ursprünglichen Ratschluß des Kosmos vorgesetzt war, 2160 Jahre.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":250,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/227/1923-08-29/p018"},{"locus":"GA 227/1923-08-29/p019","passage_number":19,"text":"2160 Jahre, was bedeutet das? Sie brauchen sich nur daran zu erinnern, daß jedes Jahr der Frühlingspunkt der Sonne an einem anderen Ort eines Tierkreiszeichens liegt. Der Frühlingspunkt der Sonne rückt vor. Er rückte vor in den letzten Jahrhunderten in der Richtung so, daß er ursprünglich im Widder stand, dann etwas weiterrückte im Widder, dann in die Fische gekommen ist, und in 25920 Jahren ungefähr, also in einer Zeit, die gegen die 26000 Jahre geht, vollendet die Sonne den ganzen Umkreis um den Tierkreis. Davon sind 2160 Jahre ein Zwölftel. Während 2160 Jahren rückt die Sonne von einem Tierkreiszeichen zum anderen vor. 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Das sind eben diejenigen Dinge, die die Menschheit bemerken sollte: daß, wenn man irgendwo in der Geisteswissenschaft beginnt, richtige Urteile zu fällen von einem Gesichtspunkte aus, und dann: von einem ganz anderen Gesichtspunkte aus wiederum richtige Urteile fällt, diese Urteile innerlich zusammenstimmen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":154,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/227/1923-08-29/p020"}],"beads":[{"from":[15],"to":[16,17],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[16],"to":[18],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[17],"to":[19],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[18],"to":[20],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}