{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 228/1923-07-27/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In trying to fathom the mysteries of the universe we normally turn to the Moon, although normally in vain, for we must win the confidence of the Moon beings if we are to learn anything from them about cosmic mysteries, but this is not necessary with Saturn. With Saturn, all that is necessary is to be open to receive the spiritual. And then, to the eyes of spirit and soul, Saturn becomes a living historian of the planetary system. Nor does he withhold the stories he can tell of what has come to pass in the planetary system. In this respect Saturn is the exact opposite of the Moon. Saturn speaks unceasingly of the planetary system’s past with such inner warmth and zest that intimate acquaintance with what he says can be dangerous, for the devotion with which he tells of past happenings in the universe arouses in us an overwhelming love for the cosmic-past. Saturn is the constant tempter of those who listen to his secrets. He tempts them to give little heed to today’s earthly affairs and to immerse themselves in what the Earth once was. Above all, Saturn speaks graphically about what the Earth was before it became Earth, and for this reason he is the planet who makes the past unendingly dear to us. Those who have a particular inclination towards Saturn in earthly existence are people who like to be gazing always into the past, who are opposed to progress, who ever-and-again want to bring back the past. These indications give some idea of the individuality, the individual character of Saturn.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture I","site_heading":"Spiritual Individualities of the Planetary System","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Und er spricht von der Vergangenheit des Planetensystems mit innerer Wärme und innerer Glut, so daß es eigentlich gefährlich ist, mit dem, was er im Weltenall spricht, intimer bekannt zu werden, weil er von den vergangenen Ereignissen des Weltenalls mit einer solchen Hingebung spricht, daß man ungeheuer lieb gewinnt diese Vergangenheit des Weltenalls. Er ist sozusagen fortwährend für denjenigen, der ihm seine Geheimnisse ablauscht, der ständige Verführer, das Irdische gering zu achten und sich ganz und gar zu vertiefen in das, was die Erde einmal war.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":188,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/228/1923-07-27/p017"},{"locus":"GA 228/1923-07-27/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Namentlich spricht er deutlich über alles das, was die Erde war, bevor sie Erde geworden ist. So daß er derjenige Planet in unserem Planetensystem ist, der einem die Vergangenheit unendlich teuer macht. Und jene Menschen, die nun eine irdische Hinneigung zum Saturn haben, das sind solche, die immer gern in die Vergangenheit blicken, die nicht gerne den Fortschritt haben, die das Vergangene immer wieder zurückführen möchten. 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