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Diese bösartigen tragen vor allen Dingen das, was nur in den oberen, in den Luft- und Wärmeregionen sein soll, hinunter in die wäßrigen und irdischen Regionen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":92,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p026"},{"locus":"GA 230/1923-11-03/p027","passage_number":27,"text":"Wenn Sie nun studieren wollen, was da geschieht, wenn diese Sylphenwesen zum Beispiel aus den oberen Regionen in die niederen Regionen des wäßrigen und erdigen Elementes das hinuntertragen, was da oben hinaufgehört, dann schauen Sie sich die Belladonna an. Die Belladonna ist diejenige Pflanze, welche in ihrer Blüte, wenn ich mich so ausdrücken darf, von der Sylphe geküßt worden ist, und welche dadurch das, was gutartiger Saft sein kann, in den Giftsaft der Belladonna umgewandelt hat.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":76,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p027"},{"locus":"GA 230/1923-11-03/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Da haben Sie das, was man eine Verschiebung der Sphäre nennen kann. Oben ist es richtig, wenn die Sylphen ihre Umschlingungskräfte entwickeln, wie ich sie vorhin beschrieben habe, wo man vom Lichte förmlich betastet wird - denn das braucht die Vogelwelt. Kommt sie aber herunter, die Sylphe, und verwendet sie das, was sie oben anwenden sollte, unten in bezug auf die Pflanzenwelt, dann entsteht ein scharfes Pflanzengift. Parasitäre Wesen durch Gnomen und Undinen; durch Sylphen die Gifte, die eigentlich das zu tief auf die Erde geströmte Himmlische sind. Wenn der Mensch oder manche Tiere die Belladonna essen, die aussieht wie eine Kirsche, nur daß sie sich verbirgt im Kelch drinnen — es wird hinuntergedrückt, man kann es noch der Form der Belladonna ansehen, was ich jetzt eben beschrieben habe -, wenn der Mensch oder gewisse Tiere die Belladonna essen, so sterben sie davon. Aber sehen Sie einmal Drosseln und Amseln an: die setzen sich auf die Belladonna und haben daran ihre beste Nahrung in der Welt. In deren Region gehört das, was in der Belladonna ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":176,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p028"},{"locus":"GA 230/1923-11-03/p029","passage_number":29,"text":"Es ist doch ein merkwürdiges Phänomen, daß die Tiere und die Menschen, die eigentlich mit ihren unteren Organen erdgebunden sind, das, was an der Erde in der Belladonna verdorben ist, als Gift aufnehmen, daß dagegen so repräsentative Vögel wie die Drosseln und Amseln, die also auf geistige Art durch die Sylphen gerade das haben sollen - und durch die gutartigen Sylphen haben sie es auch -, daß die es vertragen können, auch wenn das, was da oben in ihrer Region ist, hinuntergetragen wird. Für sie ist Nahrung, was für die mehr an die Erde gebundenen Wesenheiten Gift ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":98,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p029"},{"locus":"GA 230/1923-11-03/p030","passage_number":30,"text":"So bekommen Sie eine Anschauung davon, wie auf der einen Seite durch Gnomen und Undinen das Parasitäre von der Erde nach den anderen Wesen hinaufstrebt, wie die Gifte eigentlich von oben herunterträufeln.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":32,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p030"},{"locus":"GA 230/1923-11-03/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Wenn dagegen die Feuerwesen sich mit jenen Impulsen durchdringen, welche in die Region der Schmetterlinge gehören, welche den Schmetterlingen zu ihrer Entwickelung sehr nützlich sind, und das heruntertragen in die Früchte, dann entsteht zum Beispiel das, was wir innerhalb einer Reihe von Mandeln als giftige Mandeln haben. Da wird dieses Gift durch die Tätigkeit der Feuerwesen in die Mandelfrucht hineingetragen. Und wiederum würde die Mandelfrucht überhaupt nicht entstehen können, wenn nicht auf gutartige Weise von denselben Feuerwesen sozusagen das, was wir bei den anderen Früchten essen, verbrannt würde. Sehen Sie sich doch die Mandel an. Bei den anderen Früchten haben Sie in der Mitte den weißen Kern und ringsherum das Fruchtfleisch. Bei der Mandel haben Sie mitten drinnen den Kern, und ringsherum das Fruchtfleisch ist ganz verbrannt. Das ist die Tätigkeit der Feuerwesen. Und artet diese Tätigkeit aus, wird das, was die Feuerwesen vollführen, nicht bloß in die braune Mandelschale hineingearbeitet, wo es noch gutartig sein kann, sondern geht nur etwas von dem, was Schale erzeugen soll, innerlich in den weißen Kern der Mandel hinein, dann wird die Mandel giftig (Tafel 13, rechts).","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":183,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p031"},{"locus":"GA 230/1923-11-03/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"So haben Sie ein Bild davon, wie diese Wesenheiten, die da angrenzen in der Welt, die unmittelbar jenseits der Schwelle liegt, eigentlich, wenn sie ihre Impulse durchführen, zu den Trägern des parasitären Wesens, des Giftwesens, und damit zu Trägern von Krankheiten werden. Auf diese Art wird deutlich, inwiefern sich der Mensch als gesundes Wesen heraushebt aus dem, was ihn ergreifen kann in der Krankheit. Denn es hängt das zusammen mit der Entfaltung des Bösartigen in diesen Wesenheiten, die andererseits da sein müssen, um den ganzen Aufbau, um Wachsen und Sprossen der Natur und wiederum Zerstören der Natur möglich zu machen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":100,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/230/1923-11-03/p032"}],"beads":[{"from":[28],"to":[25],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[29,30],"to":[26,27],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[31],"to":[28],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[32],"to":[29],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[33],"to":[30],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[34],"to":[31],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[35],"to":[32],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}