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Man hatte eben den Eindruck, daß sie mehr sahen als die anderen Leute, daß sie auch zu dem Göttlichen in einer anderen Weise standen durch das Wahrnehmen des Schlafzustandes. Denn die anderen Menschen, unter denen sie wohnten, die hatten eben längst dieses verloren, hatten sich längst mehr der Seelenverfassung genähert, die dann im 14. Jahrhundert in Europa allgemein wurde.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":160,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/237/1924-07-11/p020"},{"locus":"GA 237/1924-07-11/p021","passage_number":21,"text":"Aber wenn dann diese Menschen, von denen ich da spreche, diese Menschen mit der gesonderten Wahrnehmung des astralischen und des Ätherleibes, durch die Pforte des Todes gingen, dann unterschieden sie sich auch von denjenigen, die anders waren. Und man darf nicht glauben, daß der Mensch zwischen dem Tode und einer neuen Geburt ohne allen Anteil ist an dem, was auf der Erde durch Menschen geschieht. 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