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Very little is given when historians outwardly describe the rise of the Catechism, but much is given, my dear friends, when we behold it as it appeared from the super-sensible: “Down there upon the earth men are having to undergo things altogether new in the very depths of their souls; they are having to learn by way of Catechism what they are to believe.” Herewith I have described a certain feeling, but there is another which I must describe to you as follows:—We must go back once more into the first centuries of Christendom. In those times it was not yet possible for a Christian simply to go into a church, to sit down or to kneel, and then to hear the Mass right through from the beginning—from the “Introitus”—to the prayers which follow the Holy Communion. It was not possible for all Christians to attend the whole Mass through. Those who became Christians were divided into two groups. 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Denn schließlich, wenn auch die Prediger zu den weitaus meisten Menschen schon so sprechen mußten, da diese kein Bewußtsein des Geistigen im Erdenleben hatten, es war die ganze Tradition, der ganze Gebrauch der Rede noch aus Zeiten heraus, in denen man voraussetzen konnte, daß, wenn man vom Geiste redete, die Menschen noch etwas fühlten vom Geiste.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":79,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/237/1924-07-11/p028"},{"locus":"GA 237/1924-07-11/p029","passage_number":29,"text":"Das alles verschwand eigentlich erst vollständig um das 9., 10., 11. Jahrhundert herum. Da entstand eine ganz andere Verfassung sogar im Anhören. Wenn man früher einen Menschen, der aus dem Geiste heraus sprach, der eben enthusiastisch-gotterfüllt war, reden hörte, da hatte man das Gefühl, beim Zuhören gehe man eigentlich etwas aus sich heraus, man gehe etwas in seinen ätherischen Leib hinein, den physischen Leib verlasse man etwas. 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Es entstand das Bedürfnis, ihn gewissermaßen so zu bearbeiten, daß er sich aus diesem verhärteten Körper heraus doch noch gedrängt fühle, etwas über die geistige Welt zu sagen. Und daraus entstand das Bedürfnis, in Frage- und Antwortspiel die Unterweisung über die geistige Welt zu geben. Indem man fragt - Fragen haben immer etwas Suggestives -: Was ist die Taufe? — und den Menschen auf eine bestimmte Antwort präpariert, oder: Was ist die Firmung? Was ist der Heilige Geist? Was ist der Tod? Welches sind die sieben Hauptsünden? — indem man dieses Frage- und Antwortspiel präpariert, ersetzt man das selbstverständliche elementare Zuhören. Und es kam in dieser Zeit — zuerst an diejenigen Menschen, die in solche Schulen kamen, wo man das tun konnte - herauf, was ein Einlernen in Frage und Antwort war dessen, was über die geistige Welt zu sagen war: der Katechismus entstand.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":202,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/237/1924-07-11/p030"},{"locus":"GA 237/1924-07-11/p031","passage_number":31,"text":"Sehen Sie, man muß auf solche Ereignisse hinschauen. Das sahen die Seelen, die in besonders starker Weise da oben waren in der geistigen Welt und jetzt herunterschauten: Da muß etwas an die Menschen herankommen, was wir ja gar nicht kennen konnten, was uns gar nicht nahelag! Und das war ein mächtiger Eindruck, daß da unten auf der Erde der Katechismus entstand. Es ist nichts Besonderes damit gegeben, wenn die Historiker äußerlich die Entstehung des Katechismus zeigen; aber es ist viel gegeben, wenn man die Entstehung des Katechismus anschaut, wie sie sich von seiten der Übersinnlichkeit ausnahm: Da unten müssen die Menschen ganz Neues in dem Tiefsten ihrer Seele durchmachen, müssen auf Katechismusart lernen, was sie glauben sollen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":117,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/237/1924-07-11/p031"},{"locus":"GA 237/1924-07-11/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"Damit schildere ich Ihnen eine Empfindung. Eine andere habe ich Ihnen in der folgenden Weise zu schildern. Wenn wir zurückgehen in die ersten Jahrhunderte des Christentums, so war noch nicht eine Möglichkeit vorhanden, daß man als Christ in eine Kirche ging, sich hinsetzte oder hinkniete und nun die Messe von Anfang an, vom Introitus bis zu den Gebeten, die da folgen auf die Kommunion, anhörte. Das war nicht möglich für alle, eine ganze Messe zu hören, sondern diejenigen, die Christen wurden, wurden in zwei Gruppen geteilt: die Katechumenen, welche bleiben durften bei der Messe, bis das Evangelium zu Ende gelesen war; nach dem Evangelium bereitet sich das Offertorium vor, da mußten sie hinausgehen. Und nur diejenigen, die schon längere Zeit für jene heilig-innige Gemütsstimmung vorbereitet waren, in der man das Mysterium der Transsubstantiation, die Wandlung wahrnehmen durfte: die Transsubstanten, die durften drinnenbleiben, die hörten die Messe zu Ende.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":148,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/237/1924-07-11/p032"},{"locus":"GA 237/1924-07-11/p033","passage_number":33,"text":"Das war ein ganz anderes Teilnehmen an der Messe. Die Menschen, von denen ich Ihnen da gesprochen habe, daß sie in ihren Seelen die Zustände durchmachten, die ich geschildert habe, die hinunterschauten und nun schon jenes merkwürdige, ihnen noch unmöglich erscheinende Ereignis des katechetischen Unterrichtes wahrnehmen, diese Menschen hatten sich mehr oder weniger für ihren Kultus die alte christliche Sitte bewahrt: den Menschen erst nach langer Vorbereitung die ganze Messe anhören zu lassen, mitmachen zu lassen. Diese Menschen, von denen ich da gesprochen habe, kannten durchaus ein Exoterisches und ein Esoterisches an der Messe. Als esoterisch wurde von ihnen angesehen, was von der Transsubstantiation, von der Wandlung ab geschieht.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":109,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/237/1924-07-11/p033"}],"beads":[{"from":[25],"to":[27],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[26],"to":[28,29],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[27],"to":[30],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[28,29],"to":[31,32],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[30],"to":[33],"confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}